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Art Tatum
Penny Collector Member



USA
400 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  21:50:35  Show Profile Send Art Tatum a Private Message
carl-I hear you and that is just plain slime!
I am selling my number 18 registered type set tomorrow!

I'm out! Thanks carl!

my machine is running!
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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
851 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2008 :  22:20:17  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message
I've only bought two slabbed coins. One (a 1978 Ike) was so far off it was laughable, but the price was right and I cracked it out anyway. The other I still ghave (1952 S Quarter) and think it's OK. I got it the the price of one grade lower however.

Are you throwing that out?
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just carl
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
601 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2008 :  08:48:20  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message
Sort of an explanation of the original post it is important to know the coin terminology of grading. Just one of the many reason people get irritated with a grade compared to what they feel is correct. What I mean is the history of coin grading probably started with the Red Book back in 1947. Don't know why but even that book expressed the term GOOD for a coin that you could barely tell what it was. The expression of GOOD ment most of the important details were still visible. The grades after that were Fine, Uncirculated and Proof. Nothing else. This meant that FINE was just almost anything better than GOOD. Naturally Uncirculated ment Uncirculated. Where the average person would say POOR, LOUSY, JUK, GARBAGE the Red Book said GOOD. This started a coin terminology of missunderstanding. Now with our latest grades from 1 to 70 and stil the same terms only expanded to include things like G-4 to G-8, you still get a feeling that a GOOD coin is really just a piece of GARBAGE. Going up the scale this sort of carries through. Fine, Extra Fine, Very Fine and on and on and on are what someone feels like calling a coin. So now we end up with people writting books explaining the different grades and making a lot of money on a book that people say is the way to explain a grade.
To sum it all up as far as I'm conserned there is an old saying. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

Carl
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Posted - 05/14/2008 :  16:05:13  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I remember reading about an experiment in computer grading, I think it was in the ANA grading standards book...
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starwarsgeek171
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
651 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2008 :  12:35:47  Show Profile Send starwarsgeek171 a Private Message
"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder." So true. Even my dealer says, "Buy the coin, not the slab." Some of you tried to tell me that already. I've noticed that eBay is the worst for grading validity/reliability. I won't buy a coin from anyone on eBay now unless they have nearly perfect feedback, or I've dealt with them before. I always undergrade my coins, so that my buyers will be pleasantly surprised.
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PennehChaos.
Penny Collector Member



USA
269 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2008 :  14:22:27  Show Profile Send PennehChaos. a Private Message
i've noticed on ebay that the terms "AU", "BU", and "uncirculated" all seem to be used more or less interchangeably as synonyms for "coin", much the way that the term "survivor" seems to be a synonym for "car" in the collector car listings...

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