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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 10/19/2007 : 20:56:12
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Mixed results on the coin buying today:
The first bank, Washington Mutual flaked on me. Funny how a major bank can't seem to be able to figure out how to order coins from their central vault and have them there for their customer. You wouldn't think this process is so difficult. No big deal.. they are the bank that generally sticks me with 2007's when they do get a big shipment in anyway.
Next Bank - Bank of America - Livermore (My dump bank)
24 boxes BWR pennies - Just like clockwork
1 box BWR nickels
Now get this.. you guys know about the luck I have been having with bank managers lately. Today the bank manager actually wheeled out my cart full of pennies.. now that's customer service!
I was so pleased I told him that they have been so good to me customer service wise lately, especially the coin lady, that I will be moving a lot of my spare money into his bank. If a bank treats you right, you should give them your business.
3rd Bank - Washington Mutual - Richmond
24 CWR pennies
5 CWR nickels
8 shiny new rolls WY quarters
1 small head hundred
1 small head $50
Loomis Coin Drop at work:
8 BWR pennies
5 BWR nickels
Didn't get a chance to buy any coins yesterday.. but a guy that used to work here came by and dropped off a baggie full of pennies for me cause he knows I like em. I offered to pay him, but he said "Nope, they're just pennies" 399 of them 
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/19/2007 21:08:52 |
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fiatboy
Administrator
912 Posts |
 Posted - 10/19/2007 : 23:56:12
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Sorted $150 in Brinks boxes.
3,180 coppers
40 of which were wheats
28 of which were Cu Canadian
21.2% Cu
Five boxes were almost pure zinc, but one was brimming with copper. Can't wait to do the zinc resort!
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 10:31:42
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I had no special finds last week, but I managed to sort 9 good boxes.
Last Week Results:
9 boxes sorted
15,617 zincs returned
6,883 coppers hoarded
30.6%
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 02:27:46
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Sorting Report for today:
6 Boxes pennies
3239 Copper
14 darn dimes - I love those bonus dimes! - 2 boxes had 6 each
1 not so darn dime - it was 90% Silver - My first silver dime in a penny roll!
1 Aluminum foreign coin - I think it was a 1 won from Korea - Will have to go post info on Cerulean's whatsit thread in Numismatics to find out what it is for sure.
21.59%
-a few more than I had before
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 20:24:39
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Sorting analysis Oct 21
$25.00 in cents. FWR
0 dimes
6 Wheats
2 Canadian
0 others
17% copper cents
83% zinc cents |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 02:55:58
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Sorting Report for today:
15 Boxes BWR pennies
7892 Copper
25 darn dimes - The last box had 10!
21.05%
-a few more than I had before
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 11:16:00
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Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
14 darn dimes - I love those bonus dimes!
I got 8 of those pesky things this weekend.
Makes up for the short rolls. |
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centsless
Penny Pincher Member
119 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 14:58:26
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sorted 20 handwrapped rolls today
261 coppers for 26.1% including only 1 wheat but a special one: a unc 1944
2 copper canadian
17 1982's
and an unc 2001 bahamian penny
looks like this stash wash put away in 2003 as there were several bu 2003 D's |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
 Posted - 10/22/2007 : 16:28:37
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quote:
Originally posted by cyberdan
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
14 darn dimes - I love those bonus dimes!
I got 8 of those pesky things this weekend.
Makes up for the short rolls.
25 more last night. If this keeps up I'm gonna have to start rollin' 'em!
I'm still in shock over getting a silver one in a penny roll. Sure wouldn't mind if that happened a bit more often.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/22/2007 16:29:51 |
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centsless
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 10/23/2007 : 15:28:09
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20 handwrapped rolls today:
257 copper for 25.7%, no wheats
11 canadian copper
21 1982's
HCBTT, you should (if you havent already) go back and count how many dimes you have come across since you started sorting. |
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fiatboy
Administrator
912 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 13:28:42
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As a small time hand-sorter hitting a box of Ryedale rejects is depressing. $25 brinks shrink wrap yielded 21 coppers, 10 canadians(all zinc) 20 82's that were all zinc. Is someone in Brevard county FL. running a Ryedale?
This box was multi-colored just like any other box.
I've had the same problem. Even before I got my Ryedale, I'd regularly get boxes that yielded only a small handful of coppers. Methinks there is more large-scale copper hoarding occuring than we realize. The customer-wrapped rolls are usually good. It's the Brinks-wrapped rolls that give me the low percentages.
Good luck on your next box!
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 14:24:48
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I guess I have been lucky in my area. My yields are lower than other areas of the country, but at least all those Brinks wrap boxes I sort have the same percentage copper as the customer wrapped rolls I get. I just make it up in volume.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 17:09:33
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I got this weeks pennies a day late went hunting yesterday The bank also had dimes/nickels along with the $50 bag of pennies I was wondering if my penny sorter can be made to do dimes? anyway todays bag
2060 copper
10 wheat
58 can
1 20c euro
41% copper. |
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fiatboy
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912 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 17:45:07
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Today's box yielded:
670 coppers
4 of which were 1950's wheats
1 of which was a 1920 wheat
3 2006 Canadian
26.8% copper
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 18:26:59
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Well, I have $300 sorted. But, since I sort by hand, I can't total them until I roll/count all the coppers. I need a counting/rolling machine so bad. I have $300 more to sort, but between work and my oddly busy life right now its been tough to come up with the time. I have told myself that I can buy, but can't sort until I total the ones I have sorted already. So, there are my somewhat totals.
Deal
p.s. Where could I get a good counter/roller?
I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 19:24:11
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Originally posted by NotABigDeal
p.s. Where could I get a good counter/roller?
I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.
Real rolling machines are kind of expensive, generally pretty big, and not exactly quiet. Counters are kind of like drag racing.. speed is just a matter of money.. how fast do you want to go? The good thing about hand sorting is that your pennies last you a lot longer and you don't have to worry about the bank choking on the amount of zinc you turn back in. A machine that might work pretty well for you is the Royal Sovereign. There are about a hundred of them for sale on eBay. It counts out 50 pennies and then stops. It will either count them directly into the preformed rolls or loose into the tube and then you just roll them up in one of the flat paper rolls or reuse the rolls you took the pennies out of. That way you don't have the expense of buying all those preformed rolls. Not a bad idea to verify the weight of the rolls after rolling them just to make sure they are 126 grams in case you dropped a penny when rolling them. One of those machines would give you about the best bang for the buck other than buying a Ryedale sorter.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 20:16:03
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Thanks for the speedy reply HCBTT. I'll check them out. I've thought about getting a Ryedale machine, but I'm afraid I would miss some nice wheats. Thanks again.
Deal
I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 20:47:51
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Glad I could help NotABigDeal. I have experience with a lot of great machines and this forum is about sharing experiences. You should go ahead and get the Ryedale. You won't miss any wheats at all.. in fact, you will get a lot more! The fact that you can sort a lot more pennies a lot faster with the Ryedale machine means that your harvest of wheats will increase exponentially. Sort of like going from a horse and plow to using one of those huge combines on the farm. I then have the machine do a quick resort of the rejected coins against a zinc standard and the really old wheats that contain a little tin in the composition pop out. I never miss a wheat with the Ryedale.. definately the best bang for your buck as far as machines go.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Robarons
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 21:23:11
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9/25/07 Chase Bank $10 CWR
228 coppers
17 candian
6 wheat
1 1889 Indian Head! A first for me. Its all corroded and looks like it was sanded down so no value what so ever.
22.75% copper
$20 in CWR Halves Local bank
1 63' Ben Franklin
1 64' Ken
2 67' Ken
This is the first time ever I got silver. I was amazed to find a Ben let alone anything else.Its hard because the local coin shop buys halves from my or all the banks around. He actually stamps his coin shop name on the rolls given back. This gives hope to those desperate half sorters out there! |
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Hirbonzig
Penny Collector Member
USA
451 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 14:21:45
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5 boxes of pennies sorted:
3726 copper----29.8%
31 wheats
44 canadian coppers
Got shorted 5 cents in a roll. A slightly larger diameter cent that looks as if it was hammered on was sitting rooster-eyed in the roll taking up the space where 5 other cents should be. |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 15:04:42
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"1 1889 Indian Head! A first for me. Its all corroded and looks like it was sanded down so no value what so ever."
As long as the date is readable, it should have some value. I think an average condition, common date, circulated Indian Head is worth about $1.25. I couldn't make a guess on one that is in below average circulated condition, but for sure it is worth more than copper value. |
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
672 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 16:07:27
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todays $25 sort
688 copper
1707 zinc
96 1982's
2 wheats
7 canadians
688/2500 = 27.52%
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fiatboy
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912 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2007 : 23:20:11
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I wasn't planning to sort today, but my girlfriend brought home from work $4.00 handwrapped.
192 coppers
1 1967 Rock Dove Canadian
48.25% copper
First time I've found a Rock Dove cent. I like it.
I hope to find more of the '67 centennial animal series.
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2007 : 12:41:37
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Last week was pretty skimpy on the wheats, but I found a 1918 S (worth 14 cents) and a 1943 steely (worth about 12 cents). They are not worth a bunch but better than commons. It was only the 2nd steely that I have found out of about 350k pennies so I was pretty excited.
Last Week Results:
Boxes Sorted: 11
Zincs Returned: 19,243
Coppers Kept: 8,257
30.0%
My sorting has gotten faster as I have started timing it and trying to improve. My fastest time so far is 33 minutes for a box. My goal is 30 minutes a box or .72 seconds per penny and that includes opening roles.
Here is some some fun math: 5000 pennies sorted per hour * 30% copper = 1500 copper pennies found an hour. With a worth of 1500 * .0238 = $35.67 less the cost of $15.00 cost that is $20.67 increase in wealth per hour.
Also increased my penny orders for next week from 10 to 12 boxes.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2007 : 21:21:00
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I like that math horgad. So at that sort rate and 20% copper yield your wealth would increase $13.80 per hour. Of course sorting faster helps. Since my sort rate is about twice that it would make it $27.60 per hour. Of course this assumes value at full melt and does not account for the significant amount of time spent hauling the coins back and forth to the bank, the cost of capital tied up in the pennies or the equipment to process them, and most significantly, the time to bag or reroll the zinc for return to the bank.
Would you like fries with that, sir?
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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