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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 04:11:10
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Didn't sort much tonight.. only 3 boxes. Mostly reran my zinc rejects and bagged up the zinc for tomorrow's dump. Found a handful of older wheat cents including 3 1916, a 1919-S in XF, a 28-S, a 33 and a 43 steel cent.
Sorting Report for today:
3 boxes BWR
1541 Copper
9 darn dimes
20.55%
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/12/2007 04:13:53 |
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
672 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 15:43:16
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todays box:
618 copper
1779 zinc
88 1982's
15 wheats
0 canadians
618/2500 = 24.72% |
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 17:00:31
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| I only did 1 bag this week did not check for % I was busy cutting up 3 antelope It looked to be on the low side about 25ish% low canadian count around 20 no kings and only 10 wheats. I am kind of the local butcher for friends |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2007 : 18:06:05
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Coin Buying Report for today:
Bank of America - Livermore
24 Boxes BWR Pennies
1 Box BWR Nickels
10 Rolls shiny new WY Quarters
Washington Mutual - Richmond
90 CWR Pennies
60 CWR Dimes
2 Half Dollars
You know you are doing too many coins when the bank calls you when they run out.  The last bank called me up at around 5 to ask if I had any nickels because they were all out. They said they had a bunch of penny rolls for me too. So I zip over to the bank and drop them off a bunch of nickel rolls and pick up a bunch of penny and dime rolls. Those of you that read my posts regularly know about the luck I have been having with bank managers lately. So here he comes.. as I am standing at the counter waiting for them to mark through the account numbers on the rolls.. Nope, he ain't gonna offer me low rate loan deal.
He says "Excuse me, but if you are going to buy or turn in coins can you do it earlier in the day?" I said "Hey, I wasn't even going to come to the bank today.. You guys called me because you were out of nickels.. I would have been up at the counter a lot sooner but I was stuck in that long line out in your lobby."
Amazing the differences in benks.. at my dump bank, and where I pick up one of my regular shipments of pennies every week, the manager has it down. He knows that Fridays are busier and staffs up to handle the increase. You never wait in line more than a minute. At the other bank they try to save a few cents by not having very many teller windows open, lines to the door through the Disneyland style ropes.. and then they wonder why customers are really upset me to the point of seeing yellowed off and leave them to do business with another bank. Guess this is why there is a bank on every corner.. so if one doesn't treat you right, you just walk across the street.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/12/2007 23:33:47 |
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centsless
Penny Pincher Member
119 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 07:25:51
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20 handwrapped rolls yesterday
296 coppers for 29.6 % with 1 wheat
3 copper canadian
25 1982's
extraordinarily high number of unc 1996's |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
 Posted - 10/14/2007 : 11:03:10
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Last week I hit the jackpot on wheats with a couple of the boxes. One box set my personal record for the most wheats in a box with 107. Another box came close with 93 wheats, but managed to set my roll record with 13. The only downside was out of all those wheats I only found 1 non-common...a 1917 worth like 12 cents.
Results:
sorted 6 boxes
returned 10,252 zincs
kept 4,748 coppers including 225+ wheats
kept 1 New Zealand 5 cent coin
31.7% |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2007 : 18:02:27
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Great percentage, horgad.. especially the # of wheats. I usually only get 9 or 10 wheats per box.
Darn, getting behind on my sorting again...
Amazing how those pennies stack up when you spend a few days focusing on the day job. This is the main pile. I should be able to polish off the 2 auxilary piles today. Maybe if I pace myself these will last me till I pick up this week's shipments. I would hate to run out of pennies.. what would I do?
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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TenBears
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1021 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 19:06:40
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| Dang, HBCTT. I got a chuckle out of that picture. When are you going to send us a picture of the largest copper penny hoard on the planet? Has it shifted the foundation of your dwelling yet? |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 20:06:37
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Sorting analysis Oct 12
$20.00 in cents. FWR
0 dimes
7 Wheats
2 Canadian
0 others
20% copper cents
80% zinc cents |
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fiatboy
Administrator
912 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 22:01:03
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quote:
Has it shifted the foundation of your dwelling yet?
LOL
Alright, you penny hounds, I have a question or two for you. Today I picked up $100 in pennies, ran them through the Ryedale, and only found 18 coppers! The zinc pennies were of mixed dates and of all different conditions. They were machine wrapped in those clear wrappers. The boxes were from Brinks, unopened when I got them. $50 came from one bank, and the other $50 came from a different bank. I double checked the Ryedale, but it appears to be working fine. Any idea how this happened? I am new to sorting pennies on a large scale. Does this kind of thing happen sometimes? Did I get someone else's rejects? (Does one of you live in central Ohio?  ) Is Brinks sorting pennies, as well? Do all machine wrapped pennies yield such a low percentage of copper?
Thanks. 
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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coincollector101
Penny Sorter Member
86 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2007 : 22:13:23
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Ouch Fb.....
I sorted 4 bags of pennies and got 33% copper
45 wheats to and two foreign coins I don't know the origin yet.
Happy Hoarding,
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 00:28:02
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quote:
Originally posted by fiatboy
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Has it shifted the foundation of your dwelling yet?
LOL
Alright, you penny hounds, I have a question or two for you. Today I picked up $100 in pennies, ran them through the Ryedale, and only found 18 coppers! The zinc pennies were of mixed dates and of all different conditions. They were machine wrapped in those clear wrappers. The boxes were from Brinks, unopened when I got them. $50 came from one bank, and the other $50 came from a different bank. I double checked the Ryedale, but it appears to be working fine. Any idea how this happened? I am new to sorting pennies on a large scale. Does this kind of thing happen sometimes? Did I get someone else's rejects? (Does one of you live in central Ohio? ) Is Brinks sorting pennies, as well? Do all machine wrapped pennies yield such a low percentage of copper?
You found my dump bank!!!
Darn, gettin' sloppy.. I missed a few.
Actually, we all run the risk of getting a bad batch or 2. All those zincs we turn in have to go somewhere. Personally I turn in about 80% of the all the pennies I sort.. and trust me.. that is a pretty big pile. Brinks just rolls them up and ships them out again. Fortunately I have never gotten one of these dud boxes. Most of the boxes I sort (see pic above) are Brinks wrap rolls. You might start weighing boxes before opening them to see if they are worth sorting.
Hang in there.. most machine wrapped rolls yield the same as the customer wrapped rolls.
By the way.. the foundation hasn't shifted yet.. I have them spread out in the back storage room.. not in a big pile like the incoming stack.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/16/2007 00:47:24 |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 07:26:07
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I wish there was an easy way to mark zinc pennies. If so I would love to mark my zinc dumps, and see when and where they show up.
So how about it HCBTT? Mark all your zincs with a permanent marker and we will let you know if we find any. Should only take you an extra 12 hours a week or so:)
As for dump boxes from brinks or elsewhere, (knock on wood) I have never seen any. The only thing that I have seen was a few boxes with 50% 2007s in them (almost a waste of time to sort) and of course 100% 2007 boxes which don't really bother me that much (they sort at light speed). |
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TenBears
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1021 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 09:59:21
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Dang FB, those were bad boxes. I think just about all of us have been unfortunate enough to pick up boxes of new, bright zincs. But, I personally have never had that low a sorting percentage from a box with some color in it. My lowest was 14%. Run some more boxes through that Ryedale copper harvester of yours and report the findings. I don't have a Ryedale, but there may be some issue with how you have it set up if your copper percentages remain de minimis. You can certainly find help from the guys on this site, especially since Ryedale is a member.
Where are you from? Someone else on this forum might be able to report from your area as to what their copper sorting percentages are. In the Dallas area, I can usually get a copper percentage in the 18 to 20% range. As stated earlier, my lowest was 14% and I think my best was 23 or 24%. Different parts of the country have vastly different sorting percentages. If memory serves, some forum members run as low as 10 to 15% on average and some average upwards of 30%. I have no clue as to why the percentages should vary so much, but forum reports bear that out. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
 Posted - 10/16/2007 : 11:48:18
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quote:
Originally posted by horgad
I wish there was an easy way to mark zinc pennies. If so I would love to mark my zinc dumps, and see when and where they show up.
So how about it HCBTT? Mark all your zincs with a permanent marker and we will let you know if we find any. Should only take you an extra 12 hours a week or so:)
As for dump boxes from brinks or elsewhere, (knock on wood) I have never seen any. The only thing that I have seen was a few boxes with 50% 2007s in them (almost a waste of time to sort) and of course 100% 2007 boxes which don't really bother me that much (they sort at light speed).
Sure, I can write my full name on the zincs.. should only take an extra 12 or 14 hours a day. Maybe I can just mark 1 per roll.. kind of like tracers. How about if I spray paint some blue and mix them in the bag? One of you other guys can paint them green.
I have gotten those solid 2007 boxes before too. They do sort faster, but when you get 48 boxes at one pickup, even at light speed it takes a while to open them all. And it is kind of depressing.. not to mention the $1200 in zinc you have to dump.. LOL Glutton for punishment that I am, I have a half order (12 boxes) from that that same bank in for Friday.
Last night I sorted 60 rolls of dimes and got a much worse return than fiatboy. Exactly 0 silvers.. bummer. On the bright side, I did get 5 extra bonus dimes. Now I remember why I stick mostly to pennies.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 22:43:54
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Sorting analysis Oct 16
$25.00 in cents. FWR box
2 dimes
7 Wheats
7 Canadian
1 others (a washer)
18.8% copper cents
81.2% zinc cents |
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fiatboy
Administrator
912 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 12:12:59
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I got a Brinks box this morning, and thank the copper gods, things are looking up:
33% copper
17 wheats
4 Canadian (all copper)
I know this may sound crazy to some of you, but....I kind of hate to part with my zincs sometimes. lol.
Happy Hoarding, all!
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 15:40:50
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Great to see you get a decent box fiatboy. I understand about not wanting to part with the zinc hoard, but look at it this way. Which would you rather have.. Copper pennies, unsorted pennies, or zinc pennies? I would rather have copper pennies than unsorted, and unsorted rather than zinc. When I turn in my zinc I can trade it for more unsorted boxes (which contain plenty more zincs) and when I sort them I have some of the most desireable pennies (copper pennies) to add to my hoard and several bags of zinc to take back to the bank and swap for virgin boxes.
Didn't sort much last night, had a coin club meeting. But I was able to pick up over $500 in gold and silver bullion in the coin club auction to add to my hoard.
Coin sorting Report for yesterday:
4 Boxes pennies
1912 Copper
5 darn dimes - I love those bonus dimes!
19.12%
-a few more than I had before.
Coin buying Report for yesterday:
Bank of America - Livermore
2 boxes BWR pennies
Bank of America - Richmond
2 Boxes BWR pennies
Washington Mutual - Richmond
63 CWR pennies
4 small head hundreds
1 small head $50
Loomis Coin drop at work:
5 BWR nickels
Coin Buying Report for today:
Bank of the West - Danville - Got one of those special phone calls yesterday
100 CWR pennies
1 Roll shiny new WY quarters
Loomis Coin Drop at work
5 BWR nickles
4 BWR pennies
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 10/17/2007 19:01:45 |
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 15:41:39
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todays bank run gave up 1 bag pennies ($50) 1 bag nickles ($100)
1820 Copper
74 canadian
1 king (1943)
8 wheats 1929s oldest
1 quarter (instant profit)
36.4% copper
5c
21 1959/ earlier no war.
8 canadian 4 ni
1 penny
1 50c euro
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 17:22:11
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Sorting analysis Oct 17
$25.00 in cents. CWR
0 dimes
3 Wheats
3 Canadian
0 others
16% copper cents
84% zinc cents |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 23:20:00
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Sorting analysis Oct 17
$25.00 in cents. FWR
0 dimes
8 Wheats
1 Canadian
0 others
18.6% copper cents
81.4% zinc cents |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 01:49:55
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Sorting Report for today:
6 Boxes Pennies
3252 Copper
1 darn dime
21.68%
-a few more than I had before
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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fiatboy
Administrator
912 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 22:06:04
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Today's $25.00 (not a true box, just $25.00 handwrapped):
9 wheats
3 dimes
588 coppers
23.5% Cu
Still working on the zinc resort from the last week. I've gone through about $100 so far and found 2 dimes, a few more Canadian, and 8 wheats. About $50 left to go.
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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Posted - 10/19/2007 : 13:10:49
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As a small time hand-sorter hitting a box of Ryedale rejects is depressing. $25 brinks shrink wrap yielded 21 coppers, 10 canadians(all zinc) 20 82's that were all zinc. Is someone in Brevard county FL. running a Ryedale?
This box was multi-colored just like any other box. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 15:04:49
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Ouch! That hurts. I don't think they were Ryedale rejects though.. the Reyedale machine is better than that.. it wouldn't have left nearly that many for you to find. You probably got a box from another hand sorter.. who may or may not frequent this board. You might start doing box weights to see if a box is all zinc or not before sorting.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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