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centsless
Penny Pincher Member
119 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2007 : 17:44:37
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20 handwrapped rolls today:
301 coppers for 30.1 % including 1 wheat
24 1982's
1 dime
and 1 swiss coin with a "10" on one side, i assume its francs, its just slightly larger than a penny. the dime was dark, downright black, so no wonder it got confused for a penny. the swiss coin though, was as white as a dime. |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2007 : 23:31:38
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Sorting analysis Sept 25
$15.00 in cents. CWR/FED
1 dimes
3 Wheats*
0 Canadian
0 others
19.9% copper cents
80.1% zinc cents
I found an unique 1920 S. The metal composition was different from the copper/tin/zinc combination. Has any one every heard of any 'test pennies' during this time (such as was in the 70's when they made aluminum pennies but quickly destroyed them)?
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2209 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:08:54
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Today I exchanged an old style ten dollar bill (the kind that was used before they were colorized) for pennies and nickels. I figured that if I tried to spend it the cashier’s might think it was counterfeit.
$4 in nickels
$6 in pennies
154 pre 82 copper cents
5 wheats
10 copper 1982 cents
1 Canadian
170 total
Also found in the rolls-
1 dirty ol’ dime
428 zincs- I decided to count the zincs before I put them in my zinc pile.
I am either 1 coin short or 9¢ ahead, I prefer the latter.
Of special note- one of the wheats was dated 1916, though it looks like it fought in WWI, and lost.
Epaphras, what does your 1920-S look like? Is it silver in color?
Starve the Trolls, don't feed or encourage them.
Destroy the Moonbat breeding caves.
Moonbat, A winged troll. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:45:45
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Funny you should say that about the old style $10. At work we had a lady bring back a small head $20 because the store told her it was counterfiet. We exchanged it and sent it in to the bank with our daily deposit.
I think you are 1 coin short. and only 8 cents ahead. Better check those nickel rolls.. that's where I usually get shorted. 
I want to know more about that 1920-S that Epaphras found too. What does it weigh? What color is it?
I didn't buy any coins yesterday, but I did find 31 cents at Jack in the Box.. 1 Darn dime, 2 Nickels and 11 pennies. My experienced eye tells me most of the pennies are zincers but I haven't run them through the machine yet. Amazing how people just don't care about their change.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
HoardCode0.1:M49/15USCA:US1Cu693150(105000 Reserved):US1Zi150000:US5Ni9500:CA5Ni1150 |
Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 09/26/2007 14:52:47 |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 15:01:00
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| The 1920-S has a bit of green milldew(?) on it but the date and other details are visible. It looks likes a regular wheat penny in color and size. When I was sorting yesterday, one of the pennies hit it in the pile so I thought it was a Canadian pennies because of the sound. It does not stick to a magnet, it does not have the same 'zing' as my other 1920's, and it feels lighter than copper and zinc coins (though I don't have a scale). |
Edited by - Epaphras on 09/26/2007 15:03:32 |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 16:10:23
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Sorting analysis Sept 26
$17.50 in cents. CWR
1 dimes
3 Wheats
2 Canadian
0 others
18.4% copper cents
81.6% zinc cents
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2209 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 18:04:01
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HordCopperByTheTon's quote:
"Amazing how people just don't care about their change."
Today while filling the gas tank I found 14¢ on the ground. (4 zincs, 1 dime.) I realize that a few coins isn't much, but for whoever dropped them why din't they pick them up and drop them into a charity can or save their change to put into the bank or something?
And the sheeple wonder why they can't get ahead money wise.
Starve the Trolls, don't feed or encourage them.
Destroy the Moonbat breeding caves.
Moonbat, A winged troll. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2007 : 18:59:10
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Ever notice that when they throw pennies on the ground it is almost always zinc? Darn!
They are just too lazy to bend over and pick them up.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
HoardCode0.1:M49/15USCA:US1Cu693150(105000 Reserved):US1Zi150000:US5Ni9500:CA5Ni1150 |
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c140cessna
Penny Collector Member
USA
419 Posts |
 Posted - 09/27/2007 : 07:45:25
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Report for 26 Sept 2007
My day job still busy with travel.....
US Copper:
Amount Sorted = $200 FV (8 "boxes")
Copper Hoarded = $57 FV (2.3 "boxes")
Copper % = 28.5% (typical for S.E. Michigan is 29%)
Composition: 100% Credit Union Loose Bag
Added to Hoard = 38 lbs (US Cu total = 2054 lbs)
Ryedale Machine(s) Total Sorted: 3,497,000 since Mar 2007.
Hoard Code has been updated to reflect the above additions.
M41/1USMI:US1Cu308100,CA1Cu328000,CA5Ni35000 |
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MormonMetal
Penny Pincher Member
USA
150 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2007 : 18:12:59
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9-24-07
$18.00
244 copper
2 wheats
2 dimes
13.56 percent copper
9-25-07
$40.50
514 copper
6 wheats
2 Canada
12.69 percent copper
These recent sorts are a little below average of 15 percent, but with last weeks keep rate of over 45 percent it all evens out. And as always:
-More Than I had before.
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Ryedale
Administrator
USA
523 Posts |
Posted - 09/27/2007 : 19:40:39
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My Credit Union called last week Friday, said they had $200 in pennies. Couldn't get there till Monday. Got there and $200 became $300, all loose bagged. The other branch had $50. More than I wanted I'll admit, but I took it, as I have no will power when it comes to pennies. Im so glad I got them,
$350 sorted
$184 Copper
$166 Zinc
HOLY CROW
A whopping 52.57% copper. The lot was littered with about 2 percent Mint luster type pennies from the 60's and 70's
Once again somebody's old coin stash I think. Got some cool old Canadian pennies,
a couple 1920 King George V
and a 1932 King George V
Added ~128lbs. to the hoard.
All I can say is WOW.
Keep up the pace everyone.
Ryedale
Hoard Copper Pennies,
The market will develop |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 00:51:59
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C'mon, admit it.. be honest.. it wasn't really more than you wanted.. just more than you wanted to come up with out of spare change all at once. Congrats on a great group. I gotta get out and join some credit unions! I would love to get that call to come and pick up 7 bags.
It isn't only old penny hoards they are turning in at the bank. I got 5 shiny rolls of state quarters from prior years yesterday at one of my banks. Seems someone was cashing in their state quarter hoard.. 1 of each state.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 09/28/2007 00:53:16 |
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 12:20:19
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I had my first run in with boxes... bank got me 4 boxes not the 2 bags. I had the teller open one at the bank because I feared they were all 2007 the box it showed 3 wheats and a king on top (4 of the end rolls). She was tempeted to pull the wheat rolls! but she did not. I should place some wheats in holders and take them to her just for good measure. Heading home I have good feelings about these boxes.. long story short I HATE BOXES the rolls are hard to open and 1 of the boxes was solid 2007 that completely runes one's % The bags have spoiled me. even the canadian % was low.
2259 copper
49 canadian
3 kings (42,44,50)
39 wheats (20,21S oldest)
1 20c Euro
1 dime
22.5% darn that box of 2007 |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 12:41:25
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"22.5% darn that box of 2007"
I don't think you have to count any boxes in your percentage that you don't sort. Unless I never do and I am guessing others don't either in their reports. It makes sense that way...yes it takes some time to deal with the pure 2007 boxes (pick-up and possibly return). But not having to spend the time sorting them puts them into a different category altogether.
Now of course if you sorted an entire box and found 0 coppers, then you would be obliged to count it.
INMHO...hope others chime in on this, but I would like to hear about the 2007 boxes but not see them in the percentages. |
Edited by - horgad on 09/28/2007 12:42:50 |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 13:36:16
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I agree with horgad. Solid boxes of 2007 should be reported but not counted in one's percentages. A few weeks ago I got a double shipment of 48 boxes of 2007-D cents that I did not count in my percentages. My percentages are low enough without factoring in the shiny rolls I get stuck with. When I get those mixed boxes of new and old rolls, I do a roll sort first to seperate out the circ from the BU rolls and then calculate my percentages on the circulated boxes. I would be happy with 22.5% copper in boxes. I usually only get 20-21%. Your real percentage was 30.12% Snappy. I would be ecstatic with a percentage like that.. I would be claiming I hit a main vein! I don't think I would ever have the teller open a box at the bank. What am I gonna say? This box is too shiny, I don't want it. Then see how cheerful they are about ordering for you the following week. I just take pot luck.. I smile and say thank you, toss them on the cart and put them in the trunk of the car to find out what I got later when I open them. A box of pennies is like a box of chocolates.. you never know what you are going to get inside. Today I didn't even pick up any pennies, I just stopped by 3 of my banks and gave all my bank people chocolates to let them know I appreciate them getting all those pennies for me. I will probably do the same at some of my other banks this afternoon.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 09/28/2007 13:37:53 |
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 15:12:35
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took the box of 2007's back to the bank today they were happy to get them they need coins also so they don't give me everything they have (boohoo lol)and when there they gave me another bag (the one they filled today) I saw an Ike doller in the tellers tray and asked her about it she said it was hers. So I guess when she said "I would love to see your collection some day" (long time ago) she was not hitting on me..( (she is a young cute red head I am old and crippled up) it was still a boost on esteem at the time. well todays total 1 bag
copper 1968
canadian 59
kings 2
wheats 19
5 ore norge (1975)
39% copper
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2007 : 22:26:47
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Stopped by a few more of my banks and gave them chocolates this afternoon. I was able to get a few coins to tide me over until tomorrow when I pick up one of my regular shipments of 24 penny boxes.
Buying Report for today:
Bank of America - Richmond
1 Box Bank wrapped nickels
1 Box Bank wrapped pennies
WAMU - Richmond
120 rolls customer wrapped dimes
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
HoardCode0.1:M49/15USCA:US1Cu693150(105000 Reserved):US1Zi150000:US5Ni9500:CA5Ni1150 |
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c140cessna
Penny Collector Member
USA
419 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 08:55:21
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Report for 28 Sept 2007
US Copper:
Amount Sorted = $525 FV (21 "boxes")
Copper Hoarded = $175 FV (7 "boxes")
Copper % = 33% (typical for S.E. Michigan is 29%)
Composition: 100% Credit Union Loose Bag
Added to Hoard = 118 lbs (US Cu total = 2170 lbs)
Ryedale Machine(s) Total Sorted: 3,598,000 since Mar 2007.
Hoard Code has been updated to reflect the above additions.
M41/1USMI:US1Cu321000,CA1Cu328000,CA5Ni35000 |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 11:28:43
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Last week I decided it was time to up my rate of penny hoarding a bit. Since I can't easily devote more time to the "hobby", I decided to up my orders, but just box sort some of the boxes. So from now on I am sorting the lightest boxes first and setting the heaviest ones aside. This way I can have the least number of zincs possible in the hoard.
Last weeks sorting report:
6 penny boxes sorted
10,729 zincs return
4,271 coppers kept
28.5%
1 box halves
all returned, no silver, no nothing
By the way if anyone wants the formula for figuring out how many copper pennies are in a box here is one way to do it:
(weight of full box in grams - weight of empty box and wrappers - weight of 2500 zinc pennies) / (weight of a zinc penny - weight of a copper penny) = number of copper pennies in box
weight of 2500 zinc pennies = 6250g
weight of copper - zinc penny = .58g
weight of empty brinks box and plastic wrappers = 114g
weight of empty peek through box and paper wrapper = 137g
So for a Brinks box:
(weight of full box in grams - 114g - 6250g) / .58g = number of copper pennies in box
Using that, my fattest unsorted box right now is about 35.6% copper. |
Edited by - horgad on 09/29/2007 18:06:00 |
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centsless
Penny Pincher Member
119 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 16:50:03
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sorted 20 handwrapped rolls today:
278 copper for 27.8% including 6 wheats
25 1982's
7 copper canadian
i got excited when the first roll produced 25 coppers but the percentage dropped off after that. looking forward to hitting another vein |
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Cerulean
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
993 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 19:32:50
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229 cents from circulation:
170 zincs (1982-2007) 74.2%
53 coppers (1959-1982) 23.1%
5 wheats (1920-1957)
1 Canadian (1983)
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RUNNING TOTAL
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3501 zincs (1982-2007) 75.4%
1106 coppers (1959-1982) 23.8%
31 wheats (1920-1958)
7 Canadian (1968-1995)
1 dime (2004)
Wanna take money away from the Fed? Spend dollar coins! |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 19:45:22
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Sorting analysis Oct 1
$15.00 in cents. CWR/FWR
0 dimes
4 Wheats
4 Canadian
0 others
17.5% copper cents
82.5% zinc cents |
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Posted - 10/02/2007 : 05:06:33
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just over $10 out of a nickel box
17.63 out of 2 penny boxes.
Still have 2 boxes to sort, all CAN$$$. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2007 : 23:31:31
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Didn't have too much luck buying coins on my drive-bys yesterday.
First Bank - No coins.. but they gave me a nice stuffed purple bull.
Second Bank - No coins.. They just shipped them out the week before.. but they gave me a nice stuffed teddy bear and 5 Baseball keychains.
Third Bank - Third time is the charm! Finally, some coins. Got 10 rolls CWR pennies and 20 rolls CWR nickels.
Today was a little better.
First Bank - 1 Box BWR pennies
Second Bank - 2 Boxes BWR pennies, 40 rolls BWR nickels.
If your percentages are low.. just sort more.
"Preserving REAL coinage.. 2 tons at a time... and FAKE coinage.. a quarter ton at a time.. just for speculation"
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snappy
Penny Collector Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2007 : 13:33:44
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good, bad and the ugly.
Good %, bad bank only had 1 bag not 2. The ugly low wheat %
50 fv
2772 copper
65 canadan
4 wheat
0 kings
55.4% copper
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