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Country
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2010 :  12:30:06  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
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JobIII came up with a good idea today:

Hey Country you up for another stat? This one you should have super imposed on a map of the US with colors indicating the % find (e.g. red = hot spots, blue = >>skunks)

If you SILVER posters agree, please send me a PM telling me in which state you are gathering your SILVERs. With that data point, I could generate some interesting graphics.

I have some states already and need the following posters' states to complete the data point:

cwgii



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Edited by - Country on 01/19/2010 17:39:53
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zerocd
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555 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  15:06:04  Show Profile Send zerocd a Private Message
Scrounged up nickels on bank holiday

2-Boxes Nickels

Box 1 2 Bufs 30' and 35'
Box 2 1-WN

0CD
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JustSayNoToFiat
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110 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  15:11:46  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
I'm on the Kentucky/Indiana border (in Kentucky).

A lot of what I'm seeing here has already been sorted through by 3 to 4 different people (judging from the marks on the coins).

It's Half Time...all the time.
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Country
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2010 :  15:25:28  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
OK...Here's what I have so far from a national perspective. This is an analysis of half boxes. Assumptions are: (1) $1000 bags count as 2 boxes with SILVERs/2 in each, (2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes, and (3) CWRs and loose halves are not considered in the analysis.

BOXES ONLY

SKUNKS - 64
1-4 SILVER halves - 33
5-9 SILVER halves - 10
10-19 SILVER halves - 10
20-29 SILVER halves - 10
30-49 SILVER halves - 10
50-99 SILVER halves - 2
100-and-up SILVER halves - 0 (these do occasionally appear)

When we get more data, we'll go further. A regional perspective will be the first view of the data as I collect it together.

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Country
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Posted - 01/18/2010 :  15:35:37  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
If possible, when the post your finds, please tell me how many SILVERs were in each half box. Thanks..

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JustSayNoToFiat
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110 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  19:42:16  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Country

(2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes



I like what you are wanting to do, but isn't this going to normalize and create center-bias when what you are really looking for is an accurate distribution?

Example, I look through 20 boxes and get 19 skunks and a monster box with 400 Silver halves. This will skew that data to show a higher occurrence of the 20 halves/box distribution band when most boxes are actually skunks.

To reinforce your most recent statement, I think you are going to need the actual box-by-box reports to make this work. You might not want to count finds that are not tracked by box.

It's Half Time...all the time.

Edited by - JustSayNoToFiat on 01/18/2010 19:44:41
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PreservingThePast
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USA
1572 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  20:43:50  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by JustSayNoToFiat

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes



I like what you are wanting to do, but isn't this going to normalize and create center-bias when what you are really looking for is an accurate distribution?

Example, I look through 20 boxes and get 19 skunks and a monster box with 400 Silver halves. This will skew that data to show a higher occurrence of the 20 halves/box distribution band when most boxes are actually skunks.

To reinforce your most recent statement, I think you are going to need the actual box-by-box reports to make this work. You might not want to count finds that are not tracked by box.



Not all of our members can buy an entire box of various coinage to search. They might only be able to get a few rolls at a time.
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The Finest
Penny Sorter Member



USA
56 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  00:33:55  Show Profile Send The Finest a Private Message
All this data is really great, I think I picked the right time to get into the searching game!

A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay someone a lot of money to explain that to me.-Homer Simpson
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JustSayNoToFiat
Penny Pincher Member



110 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  00:44:28  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by PreservingThePast

quote:
Originally posted by JustSayNoToFiat

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes



I like what you are wanting to do, but isn't this going to normalize and create center-bias when what you are really looking for is an accurate distribution?

Example, I look through 20 boxes and get 19 skunks and a monster box with 400 Silver halves. This will skew that data to show a higher occurrence of the 20 halves/box distribution band when most boxes are actually skunks.

To reinforce your most recent statement, I think you are going to need the actual box-by-box reports to make this work. You might not want to count finds that are not tracked by box.



Not all of our members can buy an entire box of various coinage to search. They might only be able to get a few rolls at a time.




True. However, the OP stated:

"OK...Here's what I have so far from a national perspective. This is an analysis of half boxes. Assumptions are: (1) $1000 bags count as 2 boxes with SILVERs/2 in each, (2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes, and (3) CWRs and loose halves are not considered in the analysis.

BOXES ONLY"

Looks like we'd be looking for BOX/Bag Distributions here. Distributions are different from averages, just like the "average" per capita amount of AG owned in the U.S. is much different from the distribution of it into our greedy little hands.

Many people on here track finds to the box level but not to the roll level. We would need data on finds down to the roll level to incorporate rolls effectively into a distribution.

Now if you somehow (teller help??) knew you were nursing the same box of halves at the bank, then when you finish, you should count that as a box.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  00:49:24  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
*Still pouting after getting skunked on those 2 singles this weekend.*

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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AGgressive Metal
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USA
1937 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  01:26:39  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
I need to get in the game! I've only sorted three boxes of nickels in my life! I have 5 war nickels to show for it, but they were all in 2009.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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JustSayNoToFiat
Penny Pincher Member



110 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  02:29:06  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AGgressive Metal

I need to get in the game! I've only sorted three boxes of nickels in my life! I have 5 war nickels to show for it, but they were all in 2009.



I'll give all that sort nicks some props. I did a box last year (1 WN) and date sorting was rougher on the eyes than pennies.

It's Half Time...all the time.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  07:59:39  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Yeah, nickels are the toughest for me too. They take way longer than anything else I sort. I only accept the nickels from my banks to make them happy and to make sure they give we all the CWR of everything that comes in.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:16:34  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by JustSayNoToFiat

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes



I like what you are wanting to do, but isn't this going to normalize and create center-bias when what you are really looking for is an accurate distribution?

Example, I look through 20 boxes and get 19 skunks and a monster box with 400 Silver halves. This will skew that data to show a higher occurrence of the 20 halves/box distribution band when most boxes are actually skunks.

To reinforce your most recent statement, I think you are going to need the actual box-by-box reports to make this work. You might not want to count finds that are not tracked by box.



There hasn't been too many extrapolated boxes included so far. I'd like to incorporate some of the great finds this month even if the individual boxes have not been specified. In the future, I will ask for box specification. There's not much I can do if a searcher gets a $1000 bag of halves - I just have to divide by two and call it two boxes.

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Country
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USA
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:21:43  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by PreservingThePast

quote:
Originally posted by JustSayNoToFiat

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(2) If the quantities of SILVERs in each box is not specified, each box is assumed to contain number-SILVERs/number-boxes



I like what you are wanting to do, but isn't this going to normalize and create center-bias when what you are really looking for is an accurate distribution?

Example, I look through 20 boxes and get 19 skunks and a monster box with 400 Silver halves. This will skew that data to show a higher occurrence of the 20 halves/box distribution band when most boxes are actually skunks.

To reinforce your most recent statement, I think you are going to need the actual box-by-box reports to make this work. You might not want to count finds that are not tracked by box.



Not all of our members can buy an entire box of various coinage to search. They might only be able to get a few rolls at a time.



Let me start with the bags and boxes.

When you get to the roll data, you're working with CWRs mostly. These have a much higher production rate as you all know. Let me see what I can do.

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– Theodore Roosevelt
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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:24:39  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AGgressive Metal

I need to get in the game! I've only sorted three boxes of nickels in my life! I have 5 war nickels to show for it, but they were all in 2009.



Get in the game AG!! Choose, the low hanging fruit from nickel, dime, quarter, or half rolls.

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slickeast
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USA
2533 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:26:45  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
$4 in halves found in my 3rd shift till

1 40% (1968 )

You don't have to be the BEST you just have to be.......SLICK

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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  09:37:35  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
$10 dimes: skunk

$10 quarters: skunk



"Specie is the most perfect medium because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands, and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war." -Thomas Jefferson

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JustSayNoToFiat
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110 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  11:11:36  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
$100 worth of halves from a "swiss box" (the ones with all the holes) = skunkadelic

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AGgressive Metal
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USA
1937 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  16:45:39  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
AGgressive Metal 2010 totals:

Halves: 0
Quarters: 0
Dimes: 0
War Nickels: 1
Can. .999 Ni: 1
Wheats: 1

Searched: $100 Nickels, pocket change

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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slickeast
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  16:48:23  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
1 bag halves ($1000)

SKUNK CITY.

You don't have to be the BEST you just have to be.......SLICK

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AGgressive Metal
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1937 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  16:50:38  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
I've asked at two local banks for halves and both of them said "there is a guy who comes in here already and buys all of them." BOOOOO! What do I do? Even if I get some, he has most likely searched them.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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Country
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USA
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  17:42:39  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AGgressive Metal

I've asked at two local banks for halves and both of them said "there is a guy who comes in here already and buys all of them." BOOOOO! What do I do? Even if I get some, he has most likely searched them.



You have to make a special order for a $500 box of halves from the head teller. Gotta have some CASH to search the halves.

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Silverguy23
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USA
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  18:09:32  Show Profile Send Silverguy23 a Private Message
how do you get the different titles of 1000+ Penny, Miser Member, Penny Pincher Member... etc?

Silver Bugs.... Keep Stackin'!
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  18:12:19  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Silverguy23

how do you get the different titles of 1000+ Penny, Miser Member, Penny Pincher Member... etc?



Post count. And not using other people's avatar's

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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