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Copper Catcher
Administrator
USA
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 Posted - 06/14/2009 : 20:28:50
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I recently read that if President Obama wanted he could do away with the penny with an Executive Order, rather than an Act of Congress, because it is within the Treasury Department's jurisdiction. They have already given some exceptions to the penny-as-legal tender, such as tolls. The Executive Order would say "Establishments which agree to round down cash transactions to the nearest nickel may refuse to handle pennies."
Then again he might have another idea!
To get a little background on the efforts to eliminate the penny you might want to check out this overview:
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 20:42:19
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| It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency |
Trolling is an art. |
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buyingsilvers
Penny Collector Member
441 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 20:46:13
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| laws can be changed or broken. especially if youre a celebrity |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 20:54:10
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| Neckro is correct. However, I don't think he'd make celebrity status with most of you. |
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Theodore Roosevelt
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mingusdew
Penny Sorter Member
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 22:10:33
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Give him more time, and I doubt he'll make celebrity status with just about anyone.
Edit: come to think about it, he could still technically be a celebrity, regardless of how liked he is. |
If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.
-Theodore Roosevelt
Fortune favors the informed. |
Edited by - mingusdew on 06/14/2009 22:12:11 |
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2009 : 22:19:35
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Laws do not matter to a dictator. As far as Obama is concerned, he is the law. |
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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Gr33nday43
New Member
Uzbekistan
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 22:27:43
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Here's to an Obama cent by 2010!  |
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buyingsilvers
Penny Collector Member
441 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 04:29:56
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It should say "In Change We Trust"
Instead of Liberty, "Barrack".
Instead of E Pluribus Unum, "Veni, Vidi, Vici"
Instead of the memorial, the Kenyan embassy.
Fix the spelling error in United States of America. |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 10:33:28
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Here's to an Obama cent by 2010!
We have a terrorist in our midst  ! Mr. President, protect us from these terrorists! Look Out - Here comes the Secret Service to break down your house door and carry you away to Guantanimo . |
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The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 10:37:46
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Originally posted by Silver Surfer
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Laws do not matter to a dictator. As far as Obama is concerned, he is the law.
I thought we just got rid of the would be President Dictator (The Decider). Actually, it is the very rich people of this nation who think they are the law!  |
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The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 06/15/2009 : 13:43:36
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
For a long time they refused to put any real people on our money. They thought it was better for people to remember and idolize the principles that the US was founded on (like liberty) instead of idolizing politicians. Go Figure... |
Edited by - horgad on 06/15/2009 13:44:48 |
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buyingsilvers
Penny Collector Member
441 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 14:04:40
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go figure indeed. |
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goodcents
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
504 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 14:12:52
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| UGLIEST PENNY I'VE EVER SEEN. |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 14:21:30
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Originally posted by horgad
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
For a long time they refused to put any real people on our money. They thought it was better for people to remember and idolize the principles that the US was founded on (like liberty) instead of idolizing politicians. Go Figure...
The true beauty of early American coinage was the innate remembrance of the patriots and their principles in the founding of our nation. When was a change made on our coinage? I would say it began with the Indian Head Penny, idolizing the natives only leading to the theft of their land and genocide of their peoples. After WWI, I think many of the founding father's principles were a dim memory. |
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The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Cerulean
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
993 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 14:56:09
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What better a way to pay homage to the Founding Fathers than by depicting them? In the Information Age, anything that points to the man points also to his ideas. How many students have read the histories of Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, or Franklin because they googled the man's name after seeing him on a nickel, a quarter, a $10 or a $100? That's how I learned about Jose Rizal.
Of course, I'd only extend the privilege to Founding Fathers, which excludes most any American politician after 1820. That means no to Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Kennedy. They made significant contributions in US history, but their place is limited commemorative depictions, not to crowd out from permanent designs the very men without whom our liberty would not be possible. |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 15:28:30
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Originally posted by Cerulean
What better a way to pay homage to the Founding Fathers than by depicting them? In the Information Age, anything that points to the man points also to his ideas. How many students have read the histories of Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, or Franklin because they googled the man's name after seeing him on a nickel, a quarter, a $10 or a $100? That's how I learned about Jose Rizal.
Of course, I'd only extend the privilege to Founding Fathers, which excludes most any American politician after 1820. That means no to Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Kennedy. They made significant contributions in US history, but their place is limited commemorative depictions, not to crowd out from permanent designs the very men without whom our liberty would not be possible.
The founding fathers of the US would hate to find out that their images have been placed on money. It reeks too much of coinage depicting kings and emperors and many of them despised that idea as it represented a concentrated power base instead of a government for the people and by the people.
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buyingsilvers
Penny Collector Member
441 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 15:49:11
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Originally posted by Country
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Originally posted by horgad
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
For a long time they refused to put any real people on our money. They thought it was better for people to remember and idolize the principles that the US was founded on (like liberty) instead of idolizing politicians. Go Figure...
The true beauty of early American coinage was the innate remembrance of the patriots and their principles in the founding of our nation. When was a change made on our coinage? I would say it began with the Indian Head Penny, idolizing the natives only leading to the theft of their land and genocide of their peoples. After WWI, I think many of the founding father's principles were a dim memory.
Thank you!
Anytime an issue comes up in society about whether the govt. should do this or do that, I always ask myself "what would our founding fathers think".
Unfortunately, 99% of the time, I believe they would have disagreed violently with the path our nation has taken. |
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 16:01:34
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Originally posted by Country
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Originally posted by Silver Surfer
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Laws do not matter to a dictator. As far as Obama is concerned, he is the law.
I thought we just got rid of the would be President Dictator (The Decider). Actually, it is the very rich people of this nation who think they are the law!
Yes, Obama is rich and he thinks he is the law. Chavez and Castro are certainly proud of their little Marxist dictator understudy. Obama has done in less than 7 months what the Soviets could not accomplish in 70 years. |
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 16:10:23
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| Call your President whatever you want. If you think he is really in charge of the direction of this country, I think you are mistaken. It is the uber-rich folks that are pulling all the strings of all the politicians in this land. |
---> Come to the new and improved realcent: http://realcent.org
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
148 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 17:20:02
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| Ohhhh. Ok. The black helicopters and the tri-lateral commision. Got it, now. |
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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Ant
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
894 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2009 : 19:24:30
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Here's to an Obama cent by 2010!
A reminder, folks: Fast and furious in a political discussion is par for the course, but do not discuss threatening the life of the president, directly or indirectly. The Secret Service takes statements like this seriously and determines the validity of each one on a case by case basis. |
Lovely dimes, the liveliest coin, the one that really jingles. --Truman Capote
Coins are the metallic footprints of the history of nations. --William H. Woodin |
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Gr33nday43
New Member
Uzbekistan
10 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 01:04:44
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Originally posted by Ant
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
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Originally posted by Neckro
It's also against the law to place a living president on any U.S currency
Here's to an Obama cent by 2010!
A reminder, folks: Fast and furious in a political discussion is par for the course, but do not discuss threatening the life of the president, directly or indirectly. The Secret Service takes statements like this seriously and determines the validity of each one on a case by case basis.
I hope no one took that seriously. I would much rather have OSAMA Obama in office then Biden... |
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biglouddrunk
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 06/17/2009 : 01:40:27
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| It's difficult to say how the founding fathers would feel about political issues today they were radical people who were somewhere between anarchist and Libertarians. It is my guess they believed in smaller government that the most staunch conservatives. |
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country_bumpkin
Penny Sorter Member
USA
86 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2009 : 10:51:15
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Originally posted by Country
Call your President whatever you want. If you think he is really in charge of the direction of this country, I think you are mistaken. It is the uber-rich folks that are pulling all the strings of all the politicians in this land.
So let's put George Soros on the penny, then.
President O will be disappointed to know he really isn't the man in charge. His supporters will be shocked, too. And Rick Wagoner will wake up and realize it's all been a bad, bad dream. |
He who goes a-borrowing, goes a-sorrowing.
- Benjamin Franklin |
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