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Posted - 07/23/2009 : 15:40:18
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I just ordered two of them. Paid with paypal so a refund should not be a problem. The reciept said they ship in 2 to 5 days. I'll let you know when/if they arrive. The FAQ at Cohen Mint says the following about shipping delays:
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Q: HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR ME TO GET MY ORDER?
A: WE TRY AND KEEP MOST ITEMS IN STOCK, AND WHATEVER WE DON'T HAVE ON
HAND CAN BE MANUFACTURED FAIRLY QUICKLY. OCCASIONALLY DURING TIMES OF
HIGH DEMAND WE CAN RUN LOW ON RAW MATERIALS. PLEASE REMEMBER YOU ARE
ORDERING DIRECTLY FROM THE MINTING FACILITY, WE DO NOT OFFER LIGHTNING
QUICK SHIPPING. MOST ORDERS ARE FILLED WITHIN TWO WEEKS, WITH SOME ORDERS
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Posted - 07/23/2009 : 17:47:41
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UPDATE: Nobody is answering the phone at Cohen Mint and the message box says FULL. Either they are real busy or...........
I'll give it a week and then ask for a paypal refund. |
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natsb88
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Posted - 07/23/2009 : 18:07:25
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| How many people are still looking to buy these? I have the owner's personal email address from previous dealings, I can try to contact him that way to see what's up. |
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 Posted - 07/23/2009 : 18:23:37
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How many people are still looking to buy these? I have the owner's personal email address from previous dealings, I can try to contact him that way to see what's up.
I'd appreciate it if you would. Both the 800 number and the local phone number at Cohen Mint says the answering machine is full and not taking any messages.
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I tried calling after hearing about non-delivery of Rhodium coins here and elsewhere. My order status link they provided is BLANK. Tracking number is BLANK. My paypal status to Cohen Mint is marked PAID. I emailed also. Thanks for any help. I'll give it a week.
The BBB rating has one complaint (resolved) on file for Cohen Mint. It's for "delivery issues".
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natsb88
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Posted - 07/23/2009 : 19:11:06
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| I sent him an email. I'll post here if/when I hear back. |
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Copper Catcher
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Posted - 07/25/2009 : 15:32:31
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Update!! I got mine in the mail this weekend! I guess AMEX was able to get up with him when I was not. The coins look nice and I'm glad they arrived.
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Neckro
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Posted - 07/25/2009 : 15:39:17
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| Now the question is. Is that really Rhodium! |
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Posted - 07/26/2009 : 16:50:47
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Update!! I got mine in the mail this weekend! I guess AMEX was able to get up with him when I was not. The coins look nice and I'm glad they arrived.
So I assume you meant APMEX rather than AMEX? Can you elaborate on how long it took to get them or what you had to do to get them? These have to be the most unique bullion coins on the planet. I'm also slightly paranoid about how to tell if these are really rhodium but for the price of two of them, I'm willing to take a chance. I don't see these being made in large numbers or much longer for that matter.
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Photo is from the link above.
I'm willing to GUESS how they are made. Powdered Rhodium compressed under extreme pressure. Powdered Metallurgy according to wiki:
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Powder metallurgy is a forming and fabrication technique consisting of three major processing stages. First, the primary material is physically powdered, divided into many small individual particles. Next, the powder is injected into a mold or passed through a die to produce a weakly cohesive structure (via cold welding) very near the dimensions of the object ultimately to be manufactured. Pressures of 10-50 tons per square inch are commonly used. Also, to attain the same compression ratio across more complex pieces, it is often necessary to use lower punches as well as an upper punch. Finally, the end part is formed by applying pressure, high temperature, long setting times (during which self-welding occurs), or any combination thereof.
Just a total guess on my part. I've worked with difficult metals over the years and this would seem to be the logical route.
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Neckro
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Posted - 07/26/2009 : 17:02:14
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Posted - 07/26/2009 : 17:10:17
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Amex is a credit card company.
AMEX is also a stock exchange:) APMEX is a precious metal company:) |
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NDFARMER
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Posted - 07/26/2009 : 21:35:03
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Yes...I have several on order. I will end up giving them to my nephews...I figure by the time they are my age rhodium will be worth $$,$$$.
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Posted - 07/27/2009 : 16:14:03
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GA-Silver
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Posted - 07/30/2009 : 09:12:05
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The niobium and tantalum coins are interesting as well. I agree that the price is too high on the rhodium coin, but I imagine it is being marketed strictly as a curiosity/collector item.
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Copper Catcher
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Posted - 07/30/2009 : 15:20:12
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A recap: I paid by PayPal but charged it to my American Express Card.
When the bullion did not arrive I called American Express and they quickly took off the charge on my bill and then they contacted PayPal for me, and I assume eventually Cohen Mint to get this resolved.
Again, I ordered three of these bullion pieces on June 1st and finally got the order on July 25th.
Sorry NDFARMER unless you are willing to share in your corn, cotton and copper I am going to have to keep the rhodium.
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barrytrot
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Posted - 07/30/2009 : 15:41:59
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Posted - 07/30/2009 : 21:10:13
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I just inquired with Paypal about shipping policy. They "require" a seller who uses Paypal to ship within seven days of receiving payment. The next paragraph says that I can't open a dispute until 45 days after payment has been sent. Now I know why everyone hates paypal and the parent company Ebay. How this outfit gets away with this double speak is beyond me.
In the meantime my credit card has been charged BEFORE the item has shipped. How these PM dealers also get away with this is beyond me. |
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 07/31/2009 : 06:21:37
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Maybe I don't get it. All this hassel for a 1 gram coin? I mean, 90 f'n dollars for one gram? Where do you resell? My local dealer isn't buying those. Between the high prices, and the horrid communication/shipping policies, I've seen and heard all I need....
Deal |
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Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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barrytrot
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Posted - 07/31/2009 : 09:56:27
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Deal: Not everything has to be for profit does it? Don't you have anything for the conversation/kitsch value?
Most of us, well some anyway, have a "real job" where we turn our profit into coins to look at :) |
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 07/31/2009 : 17:39:22
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Deal: Not everything has to be for profit does it? Don't you have anything for the conversation/kitsch value?
Most of us, well some anyway, have a "real job" where we turn our profit into coins to look at :)
Not all about profit, it's about liquidity in case I need the funds. Plain and simple. It seems like you are taking it personal. Don't. It isn't.
If someone wants these, fine by me. Just saying they are not for me. They look neat even. The shipping problems have really turned me off.
I have a "real job". Not sure what you ment by that though....
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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highroller4321
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Posted - 07/31/2009 : 21:49:46
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| I'm with Deal on this one! Liquidability is the #1 turn off to me. Shipping issues is the #2 turn off to me. I thought about buying one just for show and tell, but I hate tieing up money if I could never resell the coin. |
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Posted - 07/31/2009 : 23:26:29
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| Selling the coins is not the issue. Buying them is the hard part! Supply and demand is what will make these valuable. Have you seen the number of views on this topic? Over 840 as of now. That shows there is huge interest in these coins. Cohen Mint can't make enough of them and are backlogged for weeks if not months. The rare metal content of Rhodium is only a small part of the value. Liquidity is hardly a concern unless you are buying large numbers of these. I bet these sell for big dollars in a few years, regardless of the price of Rhodium. |
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jonflyfish
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 00:11:38
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...I bet these sell for big dollars in a few years, regardless of the price of Rhodium.
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Silver Surfer
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 10:14:52
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| As long as there are coin and bullion collectors, there should be buyers for this coin. If there are no dealers willing to pay for it, the odds should be in favor of there being new collectors/investors bitten hard by the precious metals bug with varying degrees of interest in owning such a coin. And, of course, as always with anything, it is a given that there are no guarantees. |
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 22:17:02
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| There are ZERO Rhodium coins/bullion items on Ebay now. I'd love to see a Cohen Mint 1 Gram Rhodium coin come up on Ebay. Say a 10 day auction? With some chat board hype? I bet it would sell for lots more than $89.00! |
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Neckro
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 22:26:09
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| Or most people will just google the Cohen Mint, and buy it directly for their asking price? |
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