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2cents
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:32:39
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Recently I switched my beer to Miller Highlife in the clear bottles with twist off tops.
I came up with a new storage alternative for loose cents.
Each day I rinse out my previous day's beer bottles 3 times and put them in a 5 gallon bucket upside down to drain and dry. I also save the twist off tops and eventually wash and dry those too.
You can fit approximately 500 cents in one of these beer bottles, $5 face value, again "Drinkin with Lincoln".
I get used 5 gallon buckets with nice neoprene seals from work.
1 of these buckets will fit 20 Miller Highlife bottles, 12 rightside up, 8 upside down.
I suggest a small piece of acid free printer paper in the bottle after the last cent to keep the cap (rubber coated steel) from making contact with the copper cents.
Also, to make sure that the bottles and caps are totally dry before storing, you can put them in a dry environment or your oven for a little while.
And for easy handling, only put 10 bottles in a bucket till you place them in their final storage place.
20 bottles of 500 copper cents each ain't too easy to lift.
Let me know what y'all think of my storage idea, especially you beer drinkers.
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:38:40
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| That sounds like a whole lot of work for some pennies. Just count them, toss them into rolls, or ziplocks, and toss in bucket. |
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2cents
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 13:18:07
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I see your point.
But I'm also thinking of long term storage, especially with potential numismatic value of some cents not just copper value.
I'm going to drink the beer anyway !
And 500 copper Lincolns look real cool in a clear Miller glass bottle.
Try it. |
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redneck
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 14:12:02
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I'm for anything that deals with Beer, but the possibility of broken glass and cut hands is not appealing if dropped.
Maybe switch to Heineken and fill those stainless steel mini kegs instead.
Just so you know, there's a reason why they put beer in dark green or brown bottles and not clear.Beer is sensitive to light and spoils quickly.
To combat this problem Miller Highlife adds lots of preservatives.
Ask yourself, if it's good thing to put beer in clear bottles why doesn't everybody ?
I'm not trying to tell you what to drink...
It's just that Beer drinkers should look out for other fellow Beer drinkers...
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2cents
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 16:19:07
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So you don't drink Corona either ?
The label says no preservatives or additives.
Of course I know that there are ingrediants they can add that aren't officially classed as presevatives but act as preservatives. In fact, hops are not just a flavor balancer but also a type of preservative.
You might be right about the preservatives added, I'm not sure.
I know that colored bottles can be used to protect from light.
I used to do home brew.
I don't think that is the reason most beers are in brown or green glass. I think that is more marketing and tradition.
100, even 150 years ago there were beers bottled in clear glass with no problem.
I don't believe that the short time between production and consumption in the modern American beer distribution process allows for a problem with clear glass.
As far as broken glass and pennies, I think it is a matter of handling. Glass is more stable than many kinds of plastic, as far as long term storage.
But I'll be careful.
I do appreciate you concern for a fellow beer drinker.
I may do a little research on beer in clear glass.
Or at least do more taste tests !
The stuff that really messes me up is keg beer. And I have heard many other older drinkers say the same thing. Tell me what they put in keg beer that does that.
Thanks for you comments. |
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Corsair
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 16:23:29
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| Being in high school, I'm not much of a beer drinker. Alright, I haven't touched the stuff. I'll stick with re-rolling and putting them in plastic shoe boxes. |
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2cents
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 16:26:55
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| I might add that heat, living in the South especially, is a much more serious problem in the case of beer gone bad, whether in clear or colored glass. |
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redneck
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 17:09:29
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Found this.
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Clear versus colored glass bottles
If you have ever wondered why most beer bottles are amber or green, the answer is simple. The full spectrum of daylight can have undesirable effects on a beer over a period of time. The ultraviolet portion of the spectrum is especially harmful; promoting chemical reactions that produce "off flavors" that will take the edge off the freshness of a beer. Dark glass greatly inhibits this photochemical effect, whereas clear glass leaves the beer within vulnerable to being "light struck." The industry standard is for green or amber glass, but for some unfathomable reason a number of British breweries stick resolutely to their traditional practice of using clear glass bottles, with often undesirable consequences when such beers are left on a retailer’s shelf for any length of time.
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 22:25:16
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| I like the idea. I wonder if there is a better solution than reusing the cap. That's an awful lot of pressure on it when it's upside down. What about plastic bottles? You can buy them anywhere now, not just the stadium. |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 22:34:33
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| miller lite in the can. turn in the cans for $ and save the copper in 5 gal jugs! Also if you drink your beer fast enough you wont have to worry about "daylight". |
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2cents
Penny Sorter Member
USA
44 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2009 : 23:16:06
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Mobo,
I don't think the twist-off threaded steel top should have any problem dealing with being upside down. Remember the beer that comes in it is pressurized with co2/carbonation. And not all the weight of the 500 cents is on the top. I think it would spread to the sides of the neck also.
I would think that the plastic stadium bottles would work out okay in general.
However, I'm thinking more of safe long term storage. Glass remains relatively stable for centuries, if not millenia, as far as i know.
I don't think any of us have plans of storing copper for more than a couple of decades, at the outside.
Some types of plastic can react with copper coins. This would be more of a concern for AU or Bu grade coins with potential numismatic value rather than bullion value.
The other consideration is the pastic getting brittle and weak with age or becoming soft and adhereing to the contents.
I have seen plastic containers do both things over a number of years.
I think the weak point of the bottles would be moisture rusting out the steel
caps over time, if the bottles are in a moist environment over time.
And eventually even high grade plastic 5 gallon buckets will degrade depending on the environment they are in.
So the value of the coins, the general storage conditions and the storage timeframe would all be important on deciding what to use for storage.
My regular beer drinking provides a steady source of bottles. My present job provides me a relatively steady source of high quality 5 gal buckets.
And my continuing addiction to hoarding coins (particularly copper cents), all came together in the idea of this storage system.
I can see how all this hoarding/storage could seem obsesive/ compulsive, even INSANE to a normal person.
But then, I didn't say I was normal.
I'll have one more Miler Highlife and then I'm going to sleep.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 23:41:02
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Wouldn't all that beer drinking have an effect on the accuracy of your copper sorting? I don't think I could drink enough beer.
Another consideration is how hard will it be to get those pennies back out of the bottles? Say sometime down the road you sell a ton or 2 off from your hoard.. how long will it take to liberate all those coppers so you can count them up? Sounds like a lot of work to me.  |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 02/06/2009 : 00:03:05
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| Do you only store copper? Or do you do zinc as well? |
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psi
Penny Collector Member
Canada
399 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2009 : 00:14:44
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| I was just thinking you could store them in one of those big glass carboys they use for brewing beer in. I wouldn't want to be around if one of those things ever got dropped though, that's gotta be in the hundreds of pounds. I keep my .999 nickels in coffee cans, two layers of 37 rolls fit in perfectly in concentric circles (18, 12, 6, 1). |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 02/06/2009 : 01:21:25
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| I do zincs too. I like the shiny ones. I just leave them in the original boxes. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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