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Nickelless
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  01:14:15  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I just came across this link...hadn't seen these before, but it looks intriguing, although waterproof matches might raise fewer eyebrows:

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Anyone had any experiences with these? I'm kind of surprised stuff like this would be readily available for purchase.

What would be other maybe better means for emergency heat?



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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  05:51:34  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
i think I saw Fiona use something like that on Burn Notice.

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redneck
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  07:13:18  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message

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Kurr
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  08:32:31  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Seems alot of money for what you could make yourself. Thermite aint hard. 2 ingrediants, commonly found. They use it weld train track rails.


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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

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horgad
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  09:06:17  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
Yes, 2 ingredients to make, but you will probably want a third to help light it. As to why they can sell it, I think the problem is that the ingredients are so common that it would be impossible to control them. Anyhow, do a search for thermite on E-BAY, buy the ingredients, and make your own. The stuff on that site is too expensive.

1. Find some small containers with tight fitting lids
2. Mix your iron oxide and aluminum powder with a small amount of wet clay
3. Pack into container
4. Optional: make a hole for a fuse in clay/thermite mixture
5. Close the lid and store in a safe place (like at your neighbors house)
6. To use insert fuse (magnesium ribbon) and light.
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Kurr
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  09:30:08  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
and properly it burns at 6000+ I believe not 4500.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Delawhere Jack
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USA
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Posted - 01/29/2009 :  18:03:44  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
GOOD GOD, FUNKY CHICKEN MAN!

Stash away a dozen Bic lighters. Third degree burns SUCK, ALOT!


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Posted - 02/01/2009 :  23:49:58  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
This stuff CANNOT be extinguished. If ignited underwater it will burn. It contains its own oxidizer, iron oxide aka rust. It will melt through/set fire to almost everything. I strongly suggest that anyone considering using something like this learn about it.

As for making it:

A DC inverter, like that from a model railroad track can be used on an iron source to make rust. I'm sure you all know how to obtain iron so I won't bother with that.
Next, you'll need to dry the rust and get rid of any molecular water attached to it. Simply bake it in a hot oven for a couple of hours until dry and brittle. It'll have a strong rust color.

For the aluminum: this can be easily obtained from the back of an old etch a sketch.

It can be ignited with a blow torch or to aid in the ignition, a magnesium ribbon.
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 02/19/2009 :  20:33:04  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I just came across this...a little less hazardous than Thermite:

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psi
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Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2009 :  20:54:15  Show Profile Send psi a Private Message
Mentioned this in another thread here but those magnesium blocks for fire starting seem like they would be pretty effective. I think you shave some off with a knife to use it. I haven't used the blocks myself but those magnesium strips you get in high school science classes burn like crazy.
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 02/22/2009 :  01:20:14  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by psi

Mentioned this in another thread here but those magnesium blocks for fire starting seem like they would be pretty effective. I think you shave some off with a knife to use it. I haven't used the blocks myself but those magnesium strips you get in high school science classes burn like crazy.

My only experience with magnesium strips so far came when I swiped a couple from my 10th-grade chemistry class and lit them at the bus stop to blind everyone else. But I'll pick up some soon for more useful purposes.



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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 02/28/2009 :  19:32:08  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I guess I'm overlooking the obvious:

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