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Ridewithme38
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/09/2007 : 15:12:57
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I know if your collecting coins hoping to come upon something worth something you shouldn't clean your coins..
First Question is
do you seperate your wheats from your newer coppers hoping for something worth something?
Second Question
Do you clean your coppers? Are they worth more or less clean? If using a machine like ryedale's do you Have to clean before sorting? Does ryedales machine sort by weight?
Thanks guys!!
Long live the idiots at the Mint!
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2007 : 19:32:01
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My own views on separating and cleaning:
for Question #1, I separate the wheats from the 1959-1981.
I have ben doing so since I was a kid and had an interest in coin collecting. Wheats sell for a small premium since they are no longer minted, if they are not rarities to begin with.
For question #2, I myself don't bother to clean my pennies.
Forum member Carl has wisely pointed out that there are error pennies to be found in every day coins,both copper and zinc, some worth hundreds of dollars IF one is willing to sort through their cents.
Cleaning coins hurts their numismatic values since collectors pefer uncleaned coins, don't ask me why, those are just the rules of coin collecting. I didn't make them up, I just live under the rules like every other collector.
Cleaning coins for a coin sorter, whether it be for the Ryedale sorter or another sorter, is not necessary unless the penny is covered with gum residue or paint or somesuch other goo on the cent. Cleaning pennies to just shine them up isn't really going to effect their weight, Removing the tarnish from a penny removes 1/100 of a gram or less from the coin, too small to effect its weight, sorter machine wise.
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Edited by - pencilvanian on 02/09/2007 19:35:02 |
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 19:52:53
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| Just a note- if you decided to clean a really bad penny, it can be done with ketchup. Just rub it in with your finger and the gunk will slide off. Then rinse in soapy water. Good as new- almost |
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just carl
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:28:55
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Originally posted by shadomoon
Just a note- if you decided to clean a really bad penny, it can be done with ketchup. Just rub it in with your finger and the gunk will slide off. Then rinse in soapy water. Good as new- almost
I guess if this doesn't work the ketchup can still be used on a hamburger. Actually, you should not used ketchup to clean coins. It is acidic and will damage the copper coins. Ketchup is made from tomatoes and the darker the tomatoe the stronger the acidic content. It is that acid that makes people allergic to tomatoes and that is also why people grow orange, yellow and even white tomatoes. Can be checked on You must be logged in to see this link. web site. Never clean coins nor any antique or old item. The reason is the surface usually gets damaged in the process. This is usually explained on that TV show "Antique Roadshow". Especially Copper coinage. The copper reacts with so many other elements or compounds that removing the contaminate will surely remove some of the surface material of the coin. This creates a raw surface for additional materials to attack the coins. In many instances dirt can protect metal surfaces from additional damaage. A coin counter also scratches, dents, marks coins. This too will deminish thier value. Coins have been found lately that are up into the thousands due to thier rarity. Example is a 1959 Wheat Back, 1943 Copper, 1942 Steel and numerous other oddities found by the massive increase in coin collectors lately. This is also just a sample since 1922in mint condition also goes into the thousands of dollars.
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Ridewithme38
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:54:47
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I'd so love to go through all my coins looking for double dies and die cracks...but my eyes strain enough just trying to read the year on most of them...if i could identify these things as easy as the year or have any idea how to grade the quality of the coin thats the hobby i'd be in...right now i'm more of a metal collector then coin collector(I don't even know what a double die would look like!)
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Edited by - Ridewithme38 on 02/10/2007 21:55:45 |
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just carl
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2007 : 11:51:49
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Originally posted by Ridewithme38
I'd so love to go through all my coins looking for double dies and die cracks...but my eyes strain enough just trying to read the year on most of them...if i could identify these things as easy as the year or have any idea how to grade the quality of the coin thats the hobby i'd be in...right now i'm more of a metal collector then coin collector(I don't even know what a double die would look like!)
Long live the idiots at the Mint!
That is easy. Just go to the coppercoins.com web site. All is explained there.
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