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Country
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USA
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Posted - 09/20/2009 :  11:02:51  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Hirbonzig

4 boxes of dimes---7 silver.

Also my orders for halves at my bank have been comming back as quarters instead. This has happened twice and no mistake was made by the bank in their request. Has this happened to anybody else? I hope it is a temporary thing and I will be able to get more halves soon!



Never happened to me. Sometimes getting halves isn't so good anyway - SKUNK, SKUNK, SKUNK, SKUNK

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Jefferson
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Posted - 09/20/2009 :  22:33:25  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
$500 box of halves:

0 Silver

0 NIFC

0 Proofs

0 boxes since last skunk half box.


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Jefferson
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  16:03:33  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
$500 box of halves:

0 Silver

1 NIFC ('04P)

1 Proof ('77S)

0 boxes since last skunk half box.



"Specie is the most perfect medium because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands, and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war." -Thomas Jefferson

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Country
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  17:41:55  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
$470.50 Halves - $470 CWRs + 50c Teller

6 Kennedy 40% Silver Clad - '66,'67(2),'68D,'69D(2)
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September 2009 RC Total (9/21/09-1845ET from Spreadsheet)

Nicks
$2200 Searched
26 WN

Dimes
$2535 Searched
13 US
1 Can

Quarters
$100 Searched
0 US
0 Can

Halves
$24432 Searched
211 40%
63 90%
15 Proofs
1 Ag Proofs
25 NIFCs
0 Ag Can

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rainsonme
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USA
183 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2009 :  21:14:09  Show Profile Send rainsonme a Private Message
I have recently started keeping my return bags (canvas bags that you can get from banks)separated by the box or bag that I have sorted, so that I generally know how much money should be in each canvas bag I return to my dump bank to be counted. Either the tellers or the machines are grossly inaccurate, and I saved myself over $100 on one trip. I used to put all the rejects into a single bag, so I could minimize the dumps, but in so doing I lost track of how much should be in the dump bag. Making it a 1 to 1 relationship of search bag/box to dump bag has helped me make sure I don't loose on the returns. Then again, the rest of you may just gernerally keep better track of how many are where. Almost all of my sorting now occurs in the car; I very seldom bring search bags/boxes into the house.
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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2009 :  23:46:27  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
$500 box of halves:

5 1964 Kennedy (4x'64D, 1x'64)
8 40% Kennedy ('66, 5x'67, '68D, '69D)

0 NIFC

0 Proofs

1 box since last skunk half box.


I've been getting many more 90% halves from boxes this fall than in the spring and summer, but I have no idea why this would be. Thoughts?


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zerocd
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555 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  19:01:59  Show Profile Send zerocd a Private Message
4 boxes of halves from two banks.

Both boxes from the bank of my recent great finds were both skunks.

Third box skunk.

Fourth box had:
1-64
2-40%
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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  19:08:19  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rainsonme

I have recently started keeping my return bags (canvas bags that you can get from banks)separated by the box or bag that I have sorted, so that I generally know how much money should be in each canvas bag I return to my dump bank to be counted. Either the tellers or the machines are grossly inaccurate, and I saved myself over $100 on one trip. I used to put all the rejects into a single bag, so I could minimize the dumps, but in so doing I lost track of how much should be in the dump bag. Making it a 1 to 1 relationship of search bag/box to dump bag has helped me make sure I don't loose on the returns. Then again, the rest of you may just gernerally keep better track of how many are where. Almost all of my sorting now occurs in the car; I very seldom bring search bags/boxes into the house.



That's exactly what I do. Except, I do all my searching at home. I have $100, $250, and $500 size canvas bags for my half dollar returns to my dump banks. I know exactly how much CASH I should get back. Once in a while, I miscount and short my own bags.

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fb101
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  19:48:37  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
$100 nickels last night skunked again.

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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  18:41:48  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
$500 Halves - Brinks Box

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 17 had silvers; 8 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)

SKUNK+ !

1 Kennedy Clad Proof - '82S
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September 2009 RC Total (9/23/09-1945ET from Spreadsheet)

Nicks
$2300 Searched
26 WN

Dimes
$2535 Searched
13 US
1 Can

Quarters
$100 Searched
0 US
0 Can

Halves
$27432 Searched
221 40%
69 90%
16 Proofs
1 Ag Proofs
25 NIFCs
0 Ag Can

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G Powerbuck
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  19:34:57  Show Profile Send G Powerbuck a Private Message
$5 loose halves and nothing
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Country
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2009 :  20:41:15  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
$500 Halves - Brinks Box

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)

1 Kennedy Clad Proof - '84S
2 Kennedy Clad NIFCs - '03P,'04P
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September 2009 RC Total (9/23/09-2145ET from Spreadsheet)

Nicks
$2300 Searched
26 WN

Dimes
$2535 Searched
13 US
1 Can

Quarters
$100 Searched
0 US
0 Can

Halves
$27937 Searched
221 40%
69 90%
17 Proofs
1 Ag Proofs
27 NIFCs
0 Ag Can

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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  22:22:22  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
$500 box of halves:

1 40% Kennedy ('68D)

0 NIFC

0 Proofs

1 1973 Panamanian Medio Balboa

2 boxes since last skunk half box.


"Specie is the most perfect medium because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands, and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war." -Thomas Jefferson

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rainsonme
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USA
183 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  22:25:39  Show Profile Send rainsonme a Private Message
I believe silver is drying up in the Pacific Northwest as well, as I have stated before. But we should all generally expect that --- this has to be a diminishing return hobby. I am curious where the few silvers we find come from. There were 429 million 1964 kennedys minted, and 849 million 40% (65-70) minted. So the ratio of 40% to 90% kennedys should be 2 to 1, but it is much higher; many more 40%'s. For me it is 10 to 1. For Country and others it may be 8 or 9 to 1, but not the ratio I would expect if we were just sorting the old tin can coins and estate coins dumped back into circulation. If anything, the 1964's should be a little higher because so many people saved them in the first year of issue. Why are so many more 40%'s in circulation? Did the government melt a bunch of 1964's, but leave the 40%s in circulation?
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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  22:51:37  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
People in general (at least used to) know that 1964 = silver. Thus perhaps more were saved back and labeled.

Rather fewer people knew/know that 1965-70 are also silver. Back in 1993, they were just about worth face; I would imagine fewer were saved back for great lengths of time before halves fell out of circulation and people wanted nothing to do with them.

-----

I was always excited when my grandfather would give me a (clad) half here and there in 1993-95 or so; I perceived getting a 1964 half (by any means) to be an insurmountable task (silver = expensive!). If only one of those he gave me had been silver I could have started roll hunting 16 years sooner (and converted all of my face value savings to silver) ...

Oh well, I guess we have to make use of what time we have left in this hobby.




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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2009 :  22:55:46  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Country

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)




Have you thought about taking a break and doing dimes for a while? 4 silver dimes every $500 face is equivalent to two 40% halves of silver, at a fifth of the face value cost.

If my half boxes ever get that skunky I'd probably do more dimes; worked out pretty well for me this summer. Never going to get a Barber dime if you don't look.





"Specie is the most perfect medium because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands, and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war." -Thomas Jefferson

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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2009 :  10:20:56  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
$1000 Halves - 2 Brinks Boxes

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 20 had silvers; 11 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)

(Looks like I'm seaching through a large vein of casino halves. I hope it ends soon. )

BOX #1
5 Kennedy Clad NIFCs - '02P,'03P,'04P,'04D(2)

BOX #2
SKUNK!
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September 2009 RC Total (9/24/09-1735ET from Spreadsheet)

Nicks
$2300 Searched
26 WN

Dimes
$2535 Searched
13 US
1 Can

Quarters
$100 Searched
0 US
0 Can

Halves
$29437 Searched
222 40%
69 90%
17 Proofs
1 Ag Proofs
32 NIFCs
0 Ag Can

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Edited by - Country on 09/24/2009 16:28:54
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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2009 :  11:03:51  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jefferson

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)




Have you thought about taking a break and doing dimes for a while? 4 silver dimes every $500 face is equivalent to two 40% halves of silver, at a fifth of the face value cost.

If my half boxes ever get that skunky I'd probably do more dimes; worked out pretty well for me this summer. Never going to get a Barber dime if you don't look.








I've had great luck with halves until recently. I'm thinking that I'm pulling halves from a big batch of old worn casino halves right now, probably the last 20 or so boxes of halves. I am confident that these lousy halves will not last forever.

I guess I could do dimes also. However, the problem with dimes is the counting machines will count some of these as pennies; reducing the benefit of searching dimes.

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 725,470 dimes, finding 437 silver US dimes and 17 silver Canadian dimes; about 1.6 silver dimes per $250 box; worth about $1.75 (11X face)

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 978,108 halves, finding 6653 silver US halves and 1 silver Canadian half; about 6.8 silver halves per $500 box; worth about $16.50 (5-40% for every 90% at 11X face).

If I find only one average box of halves (7 silvers) and then get 4 silver SKUNKS, I would have to search through 10 boxes of dimes for an eqivalent amount of silver coins. While I haven't found silver halves in a while, the harvest of silver coins from halves seems to make more sense to me.

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Jefferson
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165 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2009 :  11:18:00  Show Profile Send Jefferson a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Country

quote:
Originally posted by Jefferson

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)




Have you thought about taking a break and doing dimes for a while? 4 silver dimes every $500 face is equivalent to two 40% halves of silver, at a fifth of the face value cost.

If my half boxes ever get that skunky I'd probably do more dimes; worked out pretty well for me this summer. Never going to get a Barber dime if you don't look.








I've had great luck with halves until recently. I'm thinking that I'm pulling halves from a big batch of old worn casino halves right now, probably the last 20 or so boxes of halves. I am confident that these lousy halves will not last forever.

I guess I could do dimes also. However, the problem with dimes is the counting machines will count some of these as pennies; reducing the benefit of searching dimes.

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 725,470 dimes, finding 437 silver US dimes and 17 silver Canadian dimes; about 1.6 silver dimes per $250 box; worth about $1.75 (11X face)

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 978,108 halves, finding 6653 silver US halves and 1 silver Canadian half; about 6.8 silver halves per $500 box; worth about $16.50 (5-40% for every 90% at 11X face).

If I find only one average box of halves (7 silvers) and then get 4 silver SKUNKS, I would have to search through 10 boxes of dimes for an eqivalent amount of silver coins. While I haven't found silver halves in a while, the harvest of silver coins from halves seems to make more sense to me.




Well if you are going through a short burst of casino halves that's another situation altogether.

Yes, halves sometimes produce very well, but if most boxes are skunks, that's a lot of effort for nothing.

Your stats and situation may vary, just thought I'd mention the dime option.

Hope your skunks end soon.



"Specie is the most perfect medium because it will preserve its own level; because, having intrinsic and universal value, it can never die in our hands, and it is the surest resource of reliance in time of war." -Thomas Jefferson


Edited by - Jefferson on 09/24/2009 11:20:15
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Country
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Posted - 09/24/2009 :  11:26:32  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jefferson

quote:
Originally posted by Country

quote:
Originally posted by Jefferson

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)




Have you thought about taking a break and doing dimes for a while? 4 silver dimes every $500 face is equivalent to two 40% halves of silver, at a fifth of the face value cost.

If my half boxes ever get that skunky I'd probably do more dimes; worked out pretty well for me this summer. Never going to get a Barber dime if you don't look.








I've had great luck with halves until recently. I'm thinking that I'm pulling halves from a big batch of old worn casino halves right now, probably the last 20 or so boxes of halves. I am confident that these lousy halves will not last forever.

I guess I could do dimes also. However, the problem with dimes is the counting machines will count some of these as pennies; reducing the benefit of searching dimes.

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 725,470 dimes, finding 437 silver US dimes and 17 silver Canadian dimes; about 1.6 silver dimes per $250 box; worth about $1.75 (11X face)

During 2009, RealCenters have searched through 978,108 halves, finding 6653 silver US halves and 1 silver Canadian half; about 6.8 silver halves per $500 box; worth about $16.50 (5-40% for every 90% at 11X face).

If I find only one average box of halves (7 silvers) and then get 4 silver SKUNKS, I would have to search through 10 boxes of dimes for an eqivalent amount of silver coins. While I haven't found silver halves in a while, the harvest of silver coins from halves seems to make more sense to me.




Well if you are going through a short burst of casino halves that's another situation altogether.

Yes, halves sometimes produce very well, but if most boxes are skunks, that's a lot of effort for nothing.

Your stats and situation may vary, just thought I'd mention the dime option.

Hope your skunks end soon.






I might try doing both.

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G Powerbuck
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USA
256 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2009 :  17:24:05  Show Profile Send G Powerbuck a Private Message
1 box of nickels, and no silver, or buffalos
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Computer Jones
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USA
1112 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2009 :  21:50:53  Show Profile Send Computer Jones a Private Message
$500 NF String box very beat up and held together with about 1/3 of a roll of tape.
I should have opened it at the Teller's cage, but it was crowded and I was pressed for time.
It was a Skunk and one roll short :(
I called the teller that orders for me and told him it was short, the next day (today).
He said he discussed that box with the Loomis driver who delivered it and then said he believed me and would make good on the shorted roll.
My next box will only cost $490.
Nice service from an institution that I only have $100 sitting in a checking account so they will order coin for me!

There's profit if you melt things!!
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zerocd
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555 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2009 :  05:05:19  Show Profile Send zerocd a Private Message
First two boxes from a new bank and both were skunks with a serious amount of searchers marks. I ordered two more for next week.

Check out the 100 year old "Magicians Token", about the size of a half dollar, my Dad found and gave me yesterday in the numis section.

Hoping to get two boxes today from an old source.

0CD
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 09/25/2009 :  05:08:45  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Had some good luck with quarters today. I know.. that never happens.. lol.

$15.25 face from cashing out somebody's change bucket.
3 silver quarters

$10 BWR from Loomis coin drop at work.
1 silver quarter

I am really liking these percentages!!!

I guess the secret to quarters is to do really, really small batches.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2009 :  17:30:58  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jefferson

quote:
Originally posted by Country

(Silver drying up here - only two $500 boxes in the last 18 had silvers; 9 SILVER SKUNKS in a row)




Have you thought about taking a break and doing dimes for a while? 4 silver dimes every $500 face is equivalent to two 40% halves of silver, at a fifth of the face value cost.

If my half boxes ever get that skunky I'd probably do more dimes; worked out pretty well for me this summer. Never going to get a Barber dime if you don't look.



Jefferson - Thank you for the idea of searching dimes. With Brink's, unlike halves which are paper wrapped, dimes are wrapped in see through plastic. It's very easy to edge search right through the plastic (I use a small plastic magnifier to scan them). It was easy. I only needed to open a few rolls that showed silver. Put the discard rolls and re-wraps right back into the box and return them as is.

I found 3 silver Roosevelts in two boxes I got from my source bank today. I'm hooked. I'm gonna get more.

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