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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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 Posted - 01/01/2009 : 17:41:41
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I spent New Year's Eve at my aunt and uncle's house. My uncle pulls out some coins he received some years ago that were his grandfathers. Most were just neat old coins, but I picked a few of the more interesting ones and some I need more information on. Here is where you guys come in. Sorry about the poor scan quality. I'm not sure where those lines came from. Perceived values would be appreciated. Any and all help/input is welcome. Resize the scans to original size to see the detail better.
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#1 Obvious what the coin is. Question is has the black mark on the obverse made this coin just bullion? My uncle had no idea this was gold. Nice surprise to him.
#2 Is this real? My uncle said his grandfather was in the service but wasn't sure if/when he fought or what service he was in. Obviously an Army coin or whatever.
#3 My favourite. The date on the coin is 1786. It was damaged by someone to reveal the date. They actually scratched the coin with metal or something. What a shame. Is this indeed a U.S. post revolution coin? If so what is the deal with the horse head?
#4 What is the denomination. George IV I believe. 182? is the date.
#5 No idea. You can see it as well as I can.
#6 and #7 Different obverse on the coins, but same reverse with 55 years between them. Same country of origin? Maybe different ruling family?
#8 I get the idea of what this is, but any history behind the "settlements" in British colonial India.
#9 I just liked this coin. I think it is in pretty nice shape.
#10 1867 nickel three cent piece. Nothing special.
#11 and #12 George V 1913, and Edward VII 1902, respectively. Canadian five cents. Tiny coins. These appear to be silver. Anybody know for sure?
#13 1855 British penny?
#14, #15 and #16 Canadian one cents. All Victoria but they have two different titles or whatever on the obverse. Why does #14 have Nova Scotia ob the reverse? Mint?
The two Indians are my only finds. The one on the right was my first. Bad shape. The 1864 is fairly nice, but no liberty.
There they are. I wish they were mine. So, what do you think?
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natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 17:45:47
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| I'm not much help for values, but nice stuff! |
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fb101
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 18:04:02
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1) No. Looks like a 2-1/2, carries a large premium if it is.
3) First U.S. coin was from 1793, this might be a colonial coin. |
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fasTTcar
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Canada
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 18:23:11
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I will chime in on the Canadian coins.
#11+12 are Canadian silver 5 cent pieces. Note they were called 1/2 dimes and not nickels, for obvious reasons. They are sterling silver .925 pure.
#13 is a British penny
#14 is a Nova Scotia penny, pre Canadian. Kind of common. PEI and New Brunswick had them as well. The other two are large one cents. The 1876 may be worth a few bucks. |
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kieblera5
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 22:10:39
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| #3 is a colonial coin from New Jersey. I actually have one myself. This variation makes it worth $65 is Good, $230 in Fine and up from there. |
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pencilvanian
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USA
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 22:12:46
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NotABigDeal-Nice coins!
What is even more nice is you have a relative who appreciates coins too so you have someone to talk about coins.
That is great to have in coin collecting or any hobby.
#1 Gold 2 1/2 say fine condition (I tend to undergrade),
$170
#2 Medallion to commemorate American servicemen who served in France in WWI
Price $5 to a collector of WWI or war memrobila
#3 New Jersey coin minted 1786
$45 good $150 fine
(have this coin authenticated as counterfiets of pre Federalist coins are known to exist)
I think the reason for the horse on the coin is because the horse is on the seal of the State of New Jersey
(I could be wrong on that detail)
Since the horse represented strength and was the animal to pull the plow (also on the coin to stand for agriculture, prosperity, growth) the horse was a logical animal to put on the coin.
#4 Large British Penny With the harp on the back it may have been minted for circulation in Ireland
.50¢ and up
#5 Denmark coin? If it were the coin would be marked Ore not Heller
Needs further research
#6 ? Can't find one like it.
#7 If the writing is in German it could be a coin from a german principality before Germany was unified in the 1890's
#8 1 cent from the Straits settlements, now part of Thailand
.50¢
The Straits Settlements were part of the British Empire First under the East India Trading company 1858-1867 and then under British India from 1867-1946
#9 US Flying Eagle Penny
$26 and up
#10 US three cent peice
$15.00 and up
#11 Canadian silver 5 cent coin
$1.75 and up
#12 Canadian silver 5 cent coin
$1.75 and up
Canadian coins, much like US coins, condition is key to a higher price.
#13 British penny (I think)
.50¢ and up
#14 #15 #16 As mentioned by FasTTcar Nova Scotia coins
Figure $1.50 and up
Again, I undergrade so as to not get your hopes up, but they are nice coins to have. |
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WheatieFan
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USA
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 02:24:43
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#2 Probably most valuable for sentimental value. Looks similar to a challenge coin. I've seen a few old ones sell for $15-20, but sometimes their worth will surprise you.
#3 Exciting if authentic. If you want to send it anywhere to get graded, go with ANACS. They'll authenticate it and give a net grade, while noting the damage. Other grading companies won't even grade it if it is scratched.
#4 I agree George IV, Ireland.
#6 When I see "Magyar", I think Hungary. Hungary as such probably didn't exist then, but I'm sure it was part of a larger kingdom.
#7 The double headed eagle could be Russian. Could also be Finland, Poland, Serbia, Austria, a German province, or others. It would be most helpful to know what the writing says - I can't make it out.
#8 Straits Settlements. What is today Malysia. Neat because it's from a colony that no longer exists, and it's a square coin.
For foreign coins, I like the "You must be logged in to see this link." website. It's a bit difficult to find your coin if you know nothing about it. But if you can narrow it down to a country or two, you can load all of the pictures on one page and search through them. They also have a price guide.
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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 05:37:30
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| very nice coins! |
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Cerulean
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USA
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 08:48:45
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#5 is a 4 Heller coin from central Europe. Likely Austria, but could also be from one of the many German principalities that existed before German unification in 1871.
#6 is a 1 Filler coin from Hungary (then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which was dissolved after WWI). One Forint is divided into 100 Filler, and still is.
#7 is a 1 Heller coin from Austria. The double eagle is not just Russian. It was the crest of the Hapsburg dynasty, whose descendants were the families of ruling houses throughout Europe during the 17th though 19th centuries. The Hapsburg double eagle can be found from Spain to Hanover to Russia. I have a Greek coin with the same two-headed eagle.
#8 is a 1 Cent coin from the British Straits Settlements, now the independent city-state of Singapore. |
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 13:32:04
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Thanks so much guys. Any more information would be appreciated. I'll pass this information onto him. I knew you guys would come through. Should he really send the colonial NJ coin to be authenticated? If so, how much to have it done?
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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kieblera5
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 14:19:54
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Originally posted by NotABigDeal
Thanks so much guys. Any more information would be appreciated. I'll pass this information onto him. I knew you guys would come through. Should he really send the colonial NJ coin to be authenticated? If so, how much to have it done?
Deal
I don't think it should be sent to be authenticated. If someone were to counterfeit a coin, it would be in a very high grade to get as much money as possible from it. ANACS does not grade colonial coinage, BTW. |
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Bluegill
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USA
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 14:24:40
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That's some mighty nice stuff your uncle has there... 
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Crash
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USA
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 18:29:02
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That's some mighty nice stuff your uncle has there...
It sure is. wish had an uncle that coins like that. |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 22:15:07
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These are the best of his coins I'm sure. Total only about 30-40 coins, and I'm pretty sure these are the best. They sure are nice to me though. One or two for the nice nephew perhaps....
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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phillips24
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Posted - 01/02/2009 : 23:39:02
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#9 - The flying eagle coin was only minted for 3 years. His was the most minted out of the bunch. But it was the first variety of "Small Cents" before the Indian Head. Being a cent forum I would say that would be one of the better coins IMO in the lot.
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 01/03/2009 : 16:28:45
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I returned the coins today and gave him the results. He was very appreciative of everybodies efforts. Thanks again guys.
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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just carl
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Posted - 01/05/2009 : 17:31:38
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Since those coins are not yours, or at least not yet, it shouldn't make a difference of the value. Naturally he may be curious as to if they were of some value and of course some are and some are not. There are many things to really consider though in evaluating those coins. Since many are foreign coins, there is a different market for those and I'm not sure how many on ebay are looking for those.
It would not be worth having any of those authenticated since they have been in his possesion for so long. Counterfeiting has been around for thousands of years but only recently have they gone to the point of faking, counterfeiting, touching up, cleaning almost anything that was or is a coin. An example is the idiots that recoat a 1943 Steel Cent and sell for $0.25 which is about what it would sell for in decent condition anyway. |
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