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Hirbonzig
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USA
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 Posted - 07/16/2008 : 15:26:16
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With the onset of mandatory HD broadcasting in Feb 2009 I've seen alot of TV's for sale very cheap or free at garage sales. These TV's won't work without a converter box in 7 months and people are trying to unload them. I've picked up 5 free ones and was wondering if the copper coils coated in a red thick glue will be considered as insulated wire or as transformers/motors when scrapping.
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scooter
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 07/17/2008 : 19:35:05
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| intresting, never thought about these tv's. good point, |
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Posted - 07/18/2008 : 06:48:46
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The government released millions of coupons for converter boxes. I got two of them. TV's will also work with a cable or satellite connection. Only antenna based units not connected to cable/satellite will be affected. I don't think a lot of people know that and are dumping their perfectly good sets.
As for the copper, I cut it, cleaned it, and got $2.40 per lb. Doesn't take very long so to me, it's worth the effort. |
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Gr33nday43
New Member
Uzbekistan
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Posted - 07/18/2008 : 15:38:21
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| How exactly do you scrap a TV? |
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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 07/18/2008 : 20:14:28
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| I pull the back off, pull the board, pull the wire that runs around the tube, pull the coil, then pull all the transformers and aluminum heat sinks from the board. Depending on the TV you can get a pound or two of copper, and maybe a pound of aluminum. Pretty easy to get also. HOWEVER, they can be a pain to get rid of. Sometimes the garbage truck won't take the tubes. |
Are you throwing that out? |
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2008 : 15:13:17
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| what do you do with transformers? I cut one apart... that was too much work. Then how do you clean the coating off of the copper? I was told I could always throw it in a big fire...lol. |
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Posted - 07/19/2008 : 16:20:40
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| I am assuming you mean the windings in yellow tape. With these i take a hammer (after they are off the board) lay them on the side, give it a couple whacks, if it has the metal frame around it this will be gone, if not the plastic core should be damaged and you can use needle nose pliers and and pull wire out. takes maybe a minute total |
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Posted - 07/19/2008 : 22:47:39
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The "windings" are called steering coils, and sometimes the yoke. I'm not sure which term is the correct term, but I've always called it the yoke. Either way, it is considered #2 copper. Once you removed the clamps (normally a phillips) you can pull the whole yoke from the tube. You have to be careful not to get cut, etc. Once you have the yoke removed, you can take a hammer, etc, and smash the yoke, which will break the dielectric up enough to remove the copper.
As for the other wire, it is all #2 also. The wire around the tube is really easy to clean. A box knife will removed the tape coating, and it only takes a minute or two. With minor exceptions, most of the other insulated wire is tin coated copper. I'm not sure if there is a price difference between this and regular #2 though. You can strip it, and just add it to your #2, or you can separate and ask your recycling center. If you burn this small wire, the tin comes off also, leaving nothing but the copper. Not giving advice here, just telling you what happens if you burn the small wire.
As for the transformers, I turn those in as is. They pay .38/lb here for transformers, which isn't bad at all. I put those in a bucket, and when I get a few large ones from microwaves, etc, I take them in.
The biggest thing to worry about tv's is safety. You have the lead factor to deal with, and it's really easy to break the tube. Also, be wary of getting shocked. The red thick wire from the flyback transformer can be charged, so be especially careful when removing this wire. If the tv has been unplugged for awhile, it should be okay. I have a shorting probe, so I always use that just in case. When I say be careful here, I'm saying this because I've been shocked. The last thing to think about is the disposal of the crt. Some places you have to pay extra, while others will take with the regular garbage. I don't do many tv's, but when I do, I use our base recycling program.
Good luck. |
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Gr33nday43
New Member
Uzbekistan
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Posted - 07/20/2008 : 00:37:25
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Thanks for the great info!
Im thinking about putting an ad in the newspaper telling people that they can drop them off here or I can pick them up. I'm not selling anything I scrap, it goes with the copper and PM hoard in rubbermaids(obviously PM is in safe) |
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2008 : 15:00:48
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
I'm not selling anything I scrap, it goes with the copper and PM hoard in rubbermaids(obviously PM is in safe)
Interesting--I have actually been thinking of posting a new thread asking if people are saving copper scrap rather than selling it. Seems like you would only want to save the really clean stuff? |
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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2008 : 18:50:10
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| I do keep some of the solid copper I find. Mostly copper items from yard sales, or larger wire that I find. I only have about 8-10 lbs at the moment though. |
Are you throwing that out? |
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Posted - 07/21/2008 : 12:53:35
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I have removed up to 7 lbs. of copper from the degaussing coil of a tv. The 31 inch and larger sets requirer larger coils. Some set use aluminum wire for the yoke and degaussing coil. On smaller sets you can cut the coil open and scrape the wire to determine if its worth the effort.
We can't throw away any set now, we have to pay up to $30 per set to recycle. Our customers can take the sets home and set them out for pick up free in this area. Call your collection co. for info, most need 2 days notice to pickup larger tvs.
You do get use to the shock in time. |
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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2010 : 18:49:09
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| I'm on my second TV and its been fun but now I have the heavy glass tubes. Any suggestions on who or how to get rid of these? I've had fun getting the copper out. I scavenge EVERY bit I can including the tiny screws and circuit boards. Any idea if there are an PMs in the TV circuit boards?? |
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mj74
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2010 : 19:26:49
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| I find TV's the easiest thing to scrap. Once I'm done I screw the back of the Tv back on,and take to the dump. They take all eletronic's for free. :) |
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WheatieFan
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 21:40:53
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The Best Buys in my area accept TVs and computer monitors up to a certain size for recycling. There is a limit of 3 per household per week, or similar.
I suspect you'll have to put the shell back on to disguise the fact that you gutted all of the valuable parts. I'd also bet that after dropping off a few loads of worthless plastic and CRTs, they'll come up with a special rule that applies only to you.
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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2010 : 02:18:59
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| I'm now left with large heavy glass tubes and don't know how to get rid of them. I smashed one of them in a box to see what would come of it. NASTY sound and nasty mess. Dont' want to do that. Any suggestions other than above on getting rid of them?? Are there any "glass/tube" only companies that will take these? |
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