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lukeownzu
Penny Collector Member


364 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  12:28:42  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
I thought I posted this earlier today but I can't find it, so here goes (even though this is making me late for class)
Someone bought two of my listings of 50$ copper, so I am sending them in one box tomorrow. I managed to fit them, and properly reinforced, but once taping it up I realized that it really jangles when being shaken. My dad said that they might open it at the post office since they have the legal right to, and then I wouldn't be able to send any more pennies there, and most of you know how hard it is for me to go to the next town :p
Since I am a minor, I can't be trusted to make the right decision here, so I am relying on you guys to make it for me :D
Do I open it up and try to pad it and repackage it so the noise is gone, or send it seperately and waste 10 bucks? Or send it hwo it is?

moboman
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:00:06  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
Depending on how hard it is to open, I'd open in and try to get the rattles down.

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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:03:12  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
put newspapers in it
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:07:36  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Mine rattle a little.. but they have never opened one. If they ask what is inside I tell them it is copper discs for jewelry making. If adding packing material be careful of the weight.. 10,000 copper pennies doesn't leave you much weight room for packaging. You are not allowed to go over 70 pounds. You could always take them all out and roll them up.. that will quiet the rattle.

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jorhyne
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:30:59  Show Profile Send jorhyne a Private Message
What are you packing your pennies in Luke? I pack mine in the $25 brinks boxes and they don't seem to jingle at all.

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lukeownzu
Penny Collector Member



364 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  16:42:13  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jorhyne

What are you packing your pennies in Luke? I pack mine in the $25 brinks boxes and they don't seem to jingle at all.



Nothing :p I normally put them in a plastic bank bag but there wouldn't be room for it with this many, so I put them in loose. (With another box taped inside to reinforce it).
So what is the consensus, that I ship as is, and the rattling won't be a problem? Or just try to repackage it without the rattling?
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member



USA
289 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  16:56:51  Show Profile Send cyberdan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by lukeownzu
so I put them in loose. (With another box taped inside to reinforce it)

All it takes is one monkey at the P.O. to drop it and you will have 10,000 coins going everywhich way. They may not be able to do anything about it, but it may make the 5 o'clock news.

Those carriers are not the brightest bulb on the tree. I once had one roll up a book I ordered just to make it fit in my mail box. It had a CD in it too. I called the local postmaster and first thing she said to me was. Did you have it insured? Not I am sorry and I will talk to your carrier. I even called the postmaster of all the local post offices and she said the same thing. (yes, I bad mouth the P.O. every chance I get)
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  17:36:51  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
If you are going to pack them loose.. at least package them in those free tyvek envelopes. Putting them in loose is just asking for trouble.. The heavier the box is the more they tend to bounce it. Your shipment will not make it intact. I think you should package it properly and ship it in 2 seperate boxes. This will improve your odds of a safe arrival and will avoid your customer getting upset about you not combining shipment or delivering the goods seperately.

I am a very experienced penny shipper, and even I get nervous shipping a 70 pounder. Play it safe, ship in 2 boxes.

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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  17:59:30  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
HCBTT has an excellant thread on shipping pennies in the Member only area.

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Tourney64
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  18:00:27  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
CyberDan says: Those carriers are not the brightest bulb on the tree.

My dad was a postal carier for 23 years. I take offense to that.
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  18:11:39  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Tourney64

CyberDan says: Those carriers are not the brightest bulb on the tree.

My dad was a postal carier for 23 years. I take offense to that.

Mail carriers can be some of the best protection anywhere because they get to know neighborhoods and people and can usually spot when something is out of place. My old carrier was really sharp. He'd delivered my mail in my neighborhood in Indiana for the 6+ years I was there. I've chatted a bit with the carrier in my new neighborhood, and he seems pretty astute as well.


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lukeownzu
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Posted - 05/27/2008 :  19:29:34  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
Alright I opened it, repackaged it after putting newspaper in it, still jingles a little but not much. So it should work :0
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moboman
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USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  19:51:35  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
keep us updated on these. I'd try to save 10 bucks too!

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Saul Mine
Penny Collector Member



USA
343 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  20:19:38  Show Profile Send Saul Mine a Private Message
quote:
Those carriers are not the brightest bulb on the tree.


It only takes ONE 70 lb package to put your light out!

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lukeownzu
Penny Collector Member



364 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  10:17:10  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
Isn't there anything else I can say other then copper plates, as I doubt copper platese would rattle like pennies :p
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NDFARMER
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  10:37:50  Show Profile Send NDFARMER a Private Message
Copper disc's for making jewelry if they ask not copper plates. I have shipped many boxes and have never had them ask me. And really there is nothing wrong with shipping collectible coins and being these are being sold above face value they are collectible.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  12:17:09  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Make sure you tape all the way around the outside edge. If the seams split they will leak out the way you packed them. Did you check the weight to make sure you didn't go over 70 pounds?

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insurrection1517
Penny Collector Member



USA
262 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  14:43:26  Show Profile Send insurrection1517 a Private Message
I don't understand why you would need to tell them they are copper plates or discs? It isn't illegal to ship these coins, is it? There are tens of thousands of coin auctions ending every day on ebay that are being shipped through the USPS. They are all breaking the law? Anything that is being sold as a coin is legal to ship as far as I understand, even paper money would be legal to ship if it was sold for collecting. Does anyone know anything different?

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  15:12:03  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
There is a line on the priority box in the restrictions that says it cannot be used to ship "Cash or cash equivalents" Even collectable coins could be considered "cash" since they are still legal tender. The post office originally intended flat rate packages for the shipping of documents. They don't like the idea of their carriers actually having something valuable on the truck.. especially if they did not extract additional fees for registered mail or something like that. Most of us that ship lots of coins don't want to ask for an interpretation from our local post office since you would probably get different answers from different post offices. Why take a chance on messing up a perfectly wonderful shipping method? Most of the post offices know these are boxes of pennies anyway just from the sound. But this Don't ask/Don't tell policy seems to work well for everyone.

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cyberdan
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USA
289 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  19:05:16  Show Profile Send cyberdan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Tourney64

CyberDan says: Those carriers are not the brightest bulb on the tree.

My dad was a postal carier for 23 years. I take offense to that.


I apologize if you took offense to that. I am only stating what I have seen where I live, in the melting pot of SoCA.

I have lived at my location for three years and I am still getting mail for past occupants. I have complained, called the postmaster and even handed back several to the carrier as she was putting in the mail. I told her that person has not been here for years. She got mad and said she was filling in for someone and tossed it in her truck. Two days later I got one back. If I ever have to go to the post office for something I have to ask them to repeat things. I am not hard of hearing, no one there speaks english as their native tounge.

But the worst case was what I told earlier about them rolling up my book to make it fit.
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lukeownzu
Penny Collector Member



364 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  21:01:47  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

Make sure you tape all the way around the outside edge. If the seams split they will leak out the way you packed them. Did you check the weight to make sure you didn't go over 70 pounds?



Taped over the top, bottom, taped each edge a few times, taped the corners several times, then taped the tape down :p Yes, it is under 70 pounds.
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Tourney64
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USA
1035 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  22:10:40  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
Thanks for the apology - CyberDan!!!
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  22:22:12  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
I dropped a box off today. The lady behind the desk saw that it was ready and saw how easily I was handling it, she said just leave it on the desk. As I was almost out of the door I heard her complain to the other lady there about how heavy it was. They never yelled out and asked what was in it.

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lukeownzu
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364 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2008 :  20:23:56  Show Profile Send lukeownzu a Private Message
mobo, does it sound really penny-ish?
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