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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 19:28:40
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Hey all... new to scraping but I'm hooked..lol. In breaking down appliances how far do you break it down ie, tv, washer, dryer, de-humidifier. I've broken down the dehumidifier, taking the motor out, do you continue to break the motors down or leave it as is. Any other tips on breaking appliances down would be great. Thanks all.
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
838 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 20:42:12
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welcome! It depends what I am breaking down. I leave the motors as it and around here you can't turn in stripped wire. But every time I go to the scrap yard I am amazed to see what people have left on. As you know you get more if you break it down. Depends on what your time is worth. |
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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 21:36:55
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Copy that.... what did you mean when you said you can't turn in "Stripped" wire? I've been stripping down all my copper wire ... should I not do that? |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
838 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 21:49:30
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law here in So Az unless you have a business account, they think you are a crack head.. |
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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2164 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 02:51:53
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but turning in wire with the insulation still on it is fine?
I don't know if I get their reasoning on that one. |
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wayne1956
Penny Pincher Member
177 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 08:13:28
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Personally on large appliances I will just remove all of the readily accessible non-steel stuff, such as the wiring, any copper tubing, brass and aluminum. The only thing I do extra is when I remove the compressor from a refrigerator I will drain the compressor oil, cut the casing in half and remove the core which has the copper windings in it. These windings are usually not too hard to remove from the core. I have filled a 5 gallon bucket with windings cut out so far, and am well into my second. Where I am at there is no restriction on the copper wiring, I just have to show a valid drivers license, which I have no problem with doing since I am legit. Right now though non ferrous metal prices are down at least 1/3 from a few months ago, so I am just hoarding the non-ferrous until the prices pick back up. The tin goes as soon as I have filled my 16 ft flatbed. |
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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 08:27:50
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Good stuff. I didn't know how much copper or valuables are inside a motor. Very new to this. I have more time to do things but was curious if its worth it. I appreciate the heads up and info. |
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wayne1956
Penny Pincher Member
177 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 11:13:23
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Just try to do what you can to remove the copper. If it is too much effort for too little return, you will know it is not worth it. If it is not too much of a problem, you know what to go after. |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 16:44:46
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You can't even sell motor windings here in AZ.
If your wire is over 3/8's (even jumper cables)you have to provide a contractors Lic # to sell |
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wayne1956
Penny Pincher Member
177 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 18:47:52
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quote: Originally posted by thogey
You can't even sell motor windings here in AZ.
If your wire is over 3/8's (even jumper cables)you have to provide a contractors Lic # to sell
Wow, they are extremely strict there in AZ. Whoever comes up with those rules really needs to use some common sense. I know there is problems with metal theft, but that is taking the term "going to extremes" to the next level. |
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rambo_k9
Penny Pincher Member
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 19:31:12
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I agree.. that is insane. I thought New Jersey was the closest thing to Communist gov't this side of the Atlantic, but that is crazy!! |
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messymessy
Penny Sorter Member
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 19:15:40
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quote: Originally posted by thogey
You can't even sell motor windings here in AZ.
If your wire is over 3/8's (even jumper cables)you have to provide a contractors Lic # to sell
You could stick your insulated copper wire that's bigger than 3/8's in a USPS flat rate box and ship it to me. I'm paying $1.60 a pound for insulated wire that big. You can fit about 50 pounds of insulated wire in a flat rate box, so it will cost you about $.30 per pound to ship. You'll still be netting $1.30 per pound. PM me if anyone is interested. |
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Heartkill
Penny Sorter Member
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 07:33:59
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I break everything as far as it'll go. When I first started out 2 years ago I was taking my time, turning screws with a Philips, sniping wires neatly, etc. Now, out comes the big boys - my 3lb. engineers hammer, 24" wrecking bar and a 28V Sawzall. If I can't smash, pry or cut it, I leave it. Get yourself some bins or even plastic tote bins to keep your metals and wire organized and seperated.
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wayne1956
Penny Pincher Member
177 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 09:53:32
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quote: Originally posted by Heartkill
Get yourself some bins or even plastic tote bins to keep your metals and wire organized and seperated.
I had found someone a year back trying to get rid of a dozen 5 gallon buckets, and I use them for just that. Brass goes into one, copper pipe into another, small aluminum in another, etc. I even have a few to hold small ferrous items until I can get a washer or dryer to dump them into the drums. |
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Heartkill
Penny Sorter Member
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 12:02:35
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quote: Originally posted by wayne1956 I had found someone a year back trying to get rid of a dozen 5 gallon buckets, and I use them for just that. Brass goes into one, copper pipe into another, small aluminum in another, etc. I even have a few to hold small ferrous items until I can get a washer or dryer to dump them into the drums.
Ah yes the trusty 5-gallon bucket. I have several that I use to store smaller items in. I break down a lot of sink faucets and they hold the small pieces of brass and copper I hack out nicely. There also especially handy for accumulating nuts, bolts, washers, screws etc. in and when it's full, I dump into anything tin that'll hold it when I do a steel run.
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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
851 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 18:23:08
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Yep, good old buckets! The ones I use were found while out scrapping as well! I sit in my shed with the fan going, surrounded by buckets, and fill them up as I break stuff down. |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 18:29:56
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The 5 gallon plastic bucket is one of man's greatest inventions.
I don't believe we would survive without them.
I dumped my dad's ashes from a 5 gallon plastic bucket into his favorite fishing lake.
This subject would support it's own thread!
At home depot they sell 5 gallon buckets! for about 5 bucks. Can you believe it! |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
838 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 20:48:10
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I just broke down 20 lbs of Christmas lights. 12 # wire 8 lb bulbs. If I kept them as is I would have got $3.00 (20 lbs x .15) Broke them down and should get $7.00 to $11.00 for them! |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
838 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2010 : 14:12:48
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just broke down an old ac unit. 275 lbs.
If I took it in as I would have got $16.50 (275 x .06 steel)
Breaking it down should get me $66.43! 20 lbs elect motors 2 lbs ins wire 63 lbs compressor 6 lbs CU 150 lbs steel 28 lbs Al/cu rad/
It pays to break things down! |
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