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Heavy Metal
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USA
86 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  13:36:16  Show Profile Send Heavy Metal a Private Message
I found this strange penny sorting the other day. It looks like someone put a band around the rim of the penny or it's a really wide rim. I don't know if this is something that could come from the mint. The penny itself seems poorly stamped. Everything seems "soft". That's the best description I can give for it.

I can't tell what metal the rim is made out of. It's definitely not copper. The coin is a 2001 d.

If it's a rim, I don't know why someone would add it to a penny. The rim is smooth all around so it wasn't part of a necklace or ring. Perhaps it was going to be and it never go done.

Do any of you have any thoughts about this?





uthminsta
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USA
1872 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  13:41:06  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Is the diameter of the coin decreased slightly?

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Bluegill
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USA
1964 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  13:48:26  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
I have gotten these before. For some unbeknown reason somebody felt it necessary to roll the diameter of the coin down. Is it about the diameter of a dime? I found one in a dime roll, one in a penny roll.



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JWRAY
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USA
378 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  13:54:21  Show Profile Send JWRAY a Private Message
I have found one of these as well, in an old jar of coins from my girlfriend's dad. No clue what it was but now I see its not all that unusual.

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Kiwiman
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225 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  14:14:18  Show Profile Send Kiwiman a Private Message
i found one just like that! (except it was a dime) too bad it seems they're not all that rare

Edited by - Kiwiman on 06/15/2010 20:01:21
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Heavy Metal
Penny Sorter Member



USA
86 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  14:25:31  Show Profile Send Heavy Metal a Private Message
quote:
Is the diameter of the coin decreased slightly?


It is minimally smaller than a cent and minimally larger than a dime. About the same amount either way.
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Shattered
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
523 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  16:27:26  Show Profile Send Shattered a Private Message
I know exactly what can cause this.

Coins that get stuck in dryers can get wedged between the drum. As it rolls on its side for years and years this happens.

We found a nickel and dime like this in my grandfathers dryer when we took it apart.

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Edited by - Shattered on 05/18/2010 14:16:43
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Kiwiman
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225 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2010 :  20:36:08  Show Profile Send Kiwiman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Shattered

I know exactly what can cause this.

Coins that get stuck in dryers can get wedged between the drum. As it rolls on its side for years and years this happens.

We found some a nickel and dime like this in my grandfathers dryer when we took it apart.



Wow! thanks for the info!
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PreservingThePast
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USA
1572 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2010 :  08:57:45  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
Heavy Metal...interesting post. Thanks for the pics and thanks for making them where they load quickly for those of us with slow dial-up.

I, too, think I have found one of these before and it is interesting to hear the possible cause. Thanks, Shattered, for posting your observations on that.

Enjoy your coin searches, everyone.
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Copper Catcher
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USA
2092 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2010 :  13:52:05  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message
I have found lots of these too over time and wondered what it was all about. Thanks!
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AGCoinHunter
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
685 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2010 :  14:43:10  Show Profile Send AGCoinHunter a Private Message
Another thing people do is called "spooning" coins. Its where you wack a spoon or something hard on the edge to round it out. Possible that could have caused this.



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fasteddy
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USA
298 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  09:39:59  Show Profile Send fasteddy a Private Message
We used to work on washers and pennies to mimic coins in metal shop while our instructor was hitting the booze bottle. Later in school we would hit the vending machines with our projects. Idle minds....
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Heavy Metal
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USA
86 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  10:19:08  Show Profile Send Heavy Metal a Private Message
I might see if this will work as a dime in a vending machine.
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2old
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188 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  11:03:00  Show Profile Send 2old a Private Message
If someone wants to do some detective work, there was an article in CoinWorld within the last 24 months about shrinking pennies with an electrical current.
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Kiwiman
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225 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2010 :  14:18:35  Show Profile Send Kiwiman a Private Message
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Edited by - Kiwiman on 05/20/2010 14:19:12
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Ryedale
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USA
523 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2010 :  05:52:11  Show Profile Send Ryedale a Private Message
I wonder if people would have used/made the smaller diameter pennies to mimic a dime in some vending machines? Could have been some nefarious counterfeiting plot.


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Bluegill
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USA
1964 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2010 :  12:52:32  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
These pennies won't work as a dime. There was no material removed. It was rolled into a smaller diameter. The metal was literally pushed into a thicker rim.

I have gotten several whittled down pennies in dime rolls. I did try one, it did get counted as a dime in a Scan-Coin when I was dumping pennies...

I know it wasn't the right thing to do, but I was curious. I guess it only begun to compensate for all the dimes that machine counted as pennies when I was still dumping dimes instead of rolling.

It was all Cu specimen, I doubt a Zn specimen would work.

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myfundsarelow
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USA
388 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2010 :  23:26:08  Show Profile Send myfundsarelow a Private Message
I also found a 1994 cent with the heavey gray looking rim around the coin it is the same size as the regular cents but lighter then pre 82 cents.a good collectors item, weak strike on both sides PEACE!!
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beauanderos
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USA
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  23:43:45  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
I've found three or four of them.

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wolvesdad
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USA
2164 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2010 :  05:01:00  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
yeah, i figured some kind of machine did it too them, where they get stuck and roll around and around like that. Not sure if Coinstar or other coin counting machines could ever cause it.

The grey rim on Zinc dated pennies is the Zinc shinning through, possibly an alloy if the temperature was sufficient along with pressure to press the Cu(or some of it) into the Zinc.

Or the metal that was contacting the cent as it was being rotated, rotated, rotated into that thicker rim.

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wolvesdad
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USA
2164 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2010 :  05:01:30  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
Actually, first one I found I thought it had been a counterfiet made of some other base metal.

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