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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  04:31:40  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Poll Question:
Which coin do you feel is the better monetary silver bullion coin, the five dollar one ounce Canadian Maple or the one dollar one ounce American Silver Eagle?

Please vote in the poll and if you are a member please post why you picked the coin you did.


Choices:

The Canadian Maple
The American Silver Eagle


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wheeler_dealer
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USA
402 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  07:39:18  Show Profile  Send wheeler_dealer a Yahoo! Message Send wheeler_dealer a Private Message
The ASE IMO is a better monetary currency as it is more widely recognized nationally and internationally. With the current monetary issues and deficit problems we are having it continues to maintain it's desirability and value. It offers simple convenient convertability and appreciation opportunities.
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cptindy
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  07:39:31  Show Profile Send cptindy a Private Message
I like the ASE as a monetary coin, which is my vote.

I think the Maple is also a beautiful coin.

Difficult choice!


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IdahoCopper
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  08:09:13  Show Profile Send IdahoCopper a Private Message
ASE, only because its marked $1, and not $5.

That makes it a "silver dollar" in my mind, even if that isn't particularly correct.

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natsb88
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  08:18:48  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
I may be an atypical American, but the Maple has a higher face value, and as I understand it, the Canadian dollar has significantly less toxic debt baggage to support.

In either case, I fail to see why government-made bullion is so often placed on a pedestal, when we spend so much time complaining about how the government can't do anything right. Why pay more for metal stamped by an institution so many of us claim to fundamentally distrust? I do have a few Maples and Eagles, but only because they happened to be the better deal at the time; I tend to prefer private mints.

Nate
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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  08:30:18  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
I tend to lean towards the Maple. As already said, the Maple is a good looking coin, it has a much higher face value, it is well respected as for purity and from what I have seen a lower asking premium for them. Face value may not mean much to some, but IMO it doesn't hurt to have it.

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coppernickel
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USA
131 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  10:35:26  Show Profile Send coppernickel a Private Message
I voted Maple Leaf. 1 oz = $5.

In reality I own twice as many Eagles as Maple Leaves.

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Bluegill
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USA
1964 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  12:09:41  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
I have to mostly agree with Nate. The only difference is I prefer foreign Ag coins to private bullion. Internationally, the ASE has no advantage over the ML, or Philharmonic. All else being equal, why not have the one with the highest FV, which is also the most currently stable currency... Just in case...

I don't do premiums for Ag, so my Ag holdings are not based on any of them. I do have a couple of each just because I do like them. If I were, it would be which ever had the lowest premium.

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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  14:06:21  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
+1 to Bluegill. ASEs only have a perceived benefit in the USA and only because the average American rarely thinks outside the USA unless some big natural disaster occurs. As a kid I remember reading Mint advertising that stated the $5 face was a failsafe limit to the downside. I would think getting anyone to accept it for $5 worth of groceries would not be much of a problem. I'd rather have $5 as my floor than $1. Plus the Maple Leaf is just awesome looking :)

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oober
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USA
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:17:49  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
I have both and the Maple has more downside protection, so the Maple.

The Leaf is amazing on this coin BTW.
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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:22:57  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
Maple, simply because of the FV.

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Nacinator
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:52:16  Show Profile Send Nacinator a Private Message
ASE for the design
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El Dee
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USA
547 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  17:25:00  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by natsb88
In either case, I fail to see why government-made bullion is so often placed on a pedestal, when we spend so much time complaining about how the government can't do anything right. Why pay more for metal stamped by an institution so many of us claim to fundamentally distrust?


Because it's an assayed chunk of metal.

The product I trust. The business model is irrelevant.




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natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  18:10:05  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by El Dee

quote:
Originally posted by natsb88
In either case, I fail to see why government-made bullion is so often placed on a pedestal, when we spend so much time complaining about how the government can't do anything right. Why pay more for metal stamped by an institution so many of us claim to fundamentally distrust?


Because it's an assayed chunk of metal.

The product I trust. The business model is irrelevant.



Rounds from private mints are also assayed chunks of metal, and their business models generally allow for those assayed chunks of metal to be sold for less.

Nate
The Copper Cave

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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  18:18:51  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
ASE - Standard, unchanging recognized design.

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metalmoney.ca
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Canada
223 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  18:55:09  Show Profile Send metalmoney.ca a Private Message
I put myself in the position of a fishmonger who has lost faith in all things fiat.
I have one fish left, and 2 customers wanting it, one with a maple, one with an ASE.
Without seeing the product, I would choose the ASE. why? COPPER.
If these are to be used as monetary metals, then they will wear. I want the longer lasting option. (0.07% i believe)
If i was offered payment with a good condition 9999 maple however, I would take that in a heartbeat and throw it in my vault.

metal is a claim on future human labour. let's all go get some while the getting is good, eh?
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Oldpagan
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USA
62 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  20:37:59  Show Profile Send Oldpagan a Private Message
I voted for the ASE, but really they are both as good as the other. The only drawback the Maples have is they tend to get a milky look when stored over time. But... I like em both!

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twocents
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398 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2010 :  21:54:58  Show Profile Send twocents a Private Message
Maples. Better nominal value. Better metal. Better economic foundation. Ben Bernacke is still trying to figure out how to print ASEs.

Just my two cents!
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beauanderos
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2010 :  18:19:31  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
ASE - greater recognizibility amongst a greater number of holders

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wildjo
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USA
28 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2010 :  18:52:12  Show Profile Send wildjo a Private Message
ASE. I like the design more than the maple. And while a think the Canadian economy has the potential to last longer than the U.S., until such time as TSHTF, I think U.S. law to thwart potential counterfeiting is superior. I feel pretty safe that when I buy an ASE I'm getting a real coin, or, if I don't, that I know how to get the issue addressed. Wouldn't know where to start in Canada.

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rosco
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USA
254 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2010 :  13:25:33  Show Profile Send rosco a Private Message
Have more ASE but think maple is pretty Need more of both!
Might have to go back to work

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Sovereigns
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Posted - 05/03/2010 :  06:22:32  Show Profile Send Sovereigns a Private Message
The American Silver Eagle would be my selection. We mainly buy 1oz Silver Britannia's here in the UK as they are easily recognized and so easier to sell on, although the premium is slightly higher. When buying gold we always buy Gold Sovereigns for the same reason. I imagine buying Silver or Gold Eagles would be the best bet if you live in the states.

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mister_pennyweather
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Posted - 05/03/2010 :  16:38:23  Show Profile Send mister_pennyweather a Private Message
Many more Americans are familiar with the ASE- mostly because of the magazine advertisements for them.

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Nickelmeister
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Canada
588 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2010 :  17:25:38  Show Profile Send Nickelmeister a Private Message
Interesting how most people are commenting ASE, but the poll is in favour of SML.

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