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bywayman
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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  09:33:02  Show Profile Send bywayman a Private Message
Do you think there will be a market for unshearched(sp) penny rolls in the future. by weight i have been keeping tight rapped rolls that weight 136 grams or more.

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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  10:31:53  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message
Doubtfull there will be a big demand, if any at all, because there will be enough sorted coin out there that theres no need for unsorted.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  11:44:38  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
What percentage of copper do you think 136 grams is? I haven't done the math...

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johnsonjohn2441
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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  20:49:02  Show Profile Send johnsonjohn2441 a Private Message
i would think not because there is a sick amount of sorted out there! SORT IT, UN WRAP IT!
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theo
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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  21:06:29  Show Profile Send theo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by uthminsta

What percentage of copper do you think 136 grams is? I haven't done the math...



Since a roll of copper pennies is about 155 grams and the average difference between a copper and a zinc penny is about .5 grams; I would guess that your 136 gram roll has 12 copper pennies in it (give or take).

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beauanderos
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Posted - 04/27/2010 :  21:12:20  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
a roll weighing 136.5 grams would contain twenty CU, thirty zinc. So 40% As far as preserving them to sell in that form... why not sort and then sell pure copper unsearched rolls?

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theo
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  09:00:52  Show Profile Send theo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beauanderos

a roll weighing 136.5 grams would contain twenty CU, thirty zinc. So 40% As far as preserving them to sell in that form... why not sort and then sell pure copper unsearched rolls?



Where are you getting your numbers? A roll containig twenty coppers would wiegh about 140 grams (3.1 grams x 20 = 62 grams) + (2.6 grams x 30 = 78), 62 + 78 = 140.

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Edited by - theo on 04/29/2010 09:18:21
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  09:05:21  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
What weight and percentage do you want it to be? If there is a market for tightly wrapped rolls I will fire up the machines and roll some up.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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fasteddy
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  11:04:23  Show Profile Send fasteddy a Private Message
hey Theo...your zincs are heavier than mine....my zincs are 2.5 grams, I'm with Beauanderos on the weights....bywayman there maybe a market who knows....but it wont be any time soon...crack'em open and sort
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theo
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  12:42:01  Show Profile Send theo a Private Message
I suppose I could be a little off. My zincs tend to wiegh either 2.5 to 2.6 grams while my coppers tend to wiegh between 3 and 3.2 grams. However If the avg difference between a zinc and copper penny is closer to .6 grams then that would change things. I was just wondering how you did your calculations.

For what its worth I would agree that there would be little or no market for unsearched rolls as long as you can get them from the banks. However, I might be willing to pay a slight premium (10% to 20%) if I knew that a given roll wieghed 145 grams or more.

Edited by - theo on 04/29/2010 12:45:02
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uthminsta
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:25:35  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
How much does the wrapping weigh? Not much, but we're talking about the nearest tenth of a gram, and many of us have scales which can do that, or better. I think it would be good to know the actual WRAPPED weight of a solid CU roll and a solid ZN roll. Then weighing rolls would help you find the better ones faster. Of course, I would still open them unless the weight told me it was pure copper or pure zinc. And even then, I still might open it!!!

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beauanderos
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:37:33  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
I actually weighed them on a digital gram scale. I started with 40 coppers and ten zincs, then kept removing pairs of coppers and adding zincs until it got close to the 136 gms he mentioned. I suppose using math would have been easier, but I was lazy that day

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beauanderos
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:42:04  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by uthminsta

How much does the wrapping weigh? Not much, but we're talking about the nearest tenth of a gram, and many of us have scales which can do that, or better. I think it would be good to know the actual WRAPPED weight of a solid CU roll and a solid ZN roll. Then weighing rolls would help you find the better ones faster. Of course, I would still open them unless the weight told me it was pure copper or pure zinc. And even then, I still might open it!!!



Uthminsta... I think you're too tightly wrapped

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uthminsta
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Posted - 04/29/2010 :  16:47:28  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Phooey, beau. I was just thinking out loud.

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