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tyoon21
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Posted - 01/08/2010 :  22:03:50  Show Profile Send tyoon21 a Private Message
Hey all,

I found a couple lots of scrap aluminum (from spent flares) from a government auction. The seller informed me I have to mutilate the metal before I can get title to it. Any ideas on how I can accomplish this? I think the approximate weight was around 850 pounds.

Thanks!
Tom



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Cupronickel
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USA
110 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  18:57:50  Show Profile Send Cupronickel a Private Message
Without knowing what form the Al is in, hard to say. How about taking a Sawsall to the pieces?
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Kurr
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Posted - 01/09/2010 :  19:27:52  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Doesn't that usually mean shredding it?

Maybe a harbor freight chipper since it's Al.


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thogey
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Posted - 01/09/2010 :  20:20:46  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
What is the definition of mutilate? Maybe you could just squash them. What are they, shell casings? There's got to be way to make that work. Some of those flare casings are big it might be worth it to have a couple guys spend a day with hammers making them un-reloadable.
You might be able to "mutilate" them with one strike with a hammer or shovel or...?

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cesario
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Posted - 01/09/2010 :  20:47:10  Show Profile Send cesario a Private Message
Best I could find was how to scrap a M151 Truck. And a bunch of sites on Cow Mutilations.



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snappy
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USA
301 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  20:52:15  Show Profile Send snappy a Private Message
Remember the primers are part brass. I am not sure how you would go about destroying that many They don't weigh much maybe 1/3 - 1oz each.

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giddyup99
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Posted - 01/09/2010 :  21:03:58  Show Profile Send giddyup99 a Private Message
I would ask the seller to what extent the item needs to be mutilated. Maybe just need to grind off any military ID #'s or something. They are pretty good about working with potential buyers from my experience.

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silversaddle1
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USA
103 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  10:21:45  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
How big is each spent casing?
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hobo finds
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Posted - 01/10/2010 :  10:25:07  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
Get one of these!You must be logged in to see this link.
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tyoon21
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Posted - 01/11/2010 :  19:35:22  Show Profile Send tyoon21 a Private Message
From what the person said, all I have to do is alter the object enough to where it cannot serve it's original purpose. So I asked how people normally mutilate the metal and I was told that is my responsibility to figure it out...lol.

I think squashing or crushing them is the best idea. I may see if I can rent a baler or something.

Or that shredder looks awesome....man I need one of those.

Thanks for all the help!
Tom

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wolvesdad
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USA
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Posted - 01/14/2010 :  02:13:12  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
SO are these shell casings... I'm not picturing a flare as a shell or cartridge. What size are they? Are there thousands of them or just 500 to a 1000?

Any chance of a picture, cause I'm real curious now.

Why didn't the gov just do the mutilation ....would have been easier.

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El Dee
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USA
547 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2010 :  09:55:06  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
If it's a shell casing, you just punch a large hole or two in the side halfway down.




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fasteddy
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USA
298 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  14:50:29  Show Profile Send fasteddy a Private Message
drive a dozer over them...that should work.
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tyoon21
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52 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2010 :  20:21:23  Show Profile Send tyoon21 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by wolvesdad

SO are these shell casings... I'm not picturing a flare as a shell or cartridge. What size are they? Are there thousands of them or just 500 to a 1000?

Any chance of a picture, cause I'm real curious now.

Why didn't the gov just do the mutilation ....would have been easier.



Here is the link to the shells.

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thogey
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2010 :  20:40:38  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
Rent a little landscape tractor and sqaush it. Load it with the blade. It could be a profitable score. Just make sure your buyer is ready.

Hey you should be able to pick this load up, Run over to Cape Canaveral for the Free shuttle engines. Boy that's scrappin.

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BOHICA
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USA
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  12:32:04  Show Profile Send BOHICA a Private Message
You need to watch out with some of the Signal Flares and especially the CADS (Cartridge Actuated Devices, the small silver things in pictures 9, 10, 16 and 18) as they may contain heavy metal residue. I looked real quick in one of my references and they contain: Oxides of Strontium and Phosphorus, Cadmium, Toluene and other toxic hazards.

As far as mutilation goes, you can crush, shred, perforate or melt them.
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tyoon21
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52 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2010 :  19:28:14  Show Profile Send tyoon21 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BOHICA

You need to watch out with some of the Signal Flares and especially the CADS (Cartridge Actuated Devices, the small silver things in pictures 9, 10, 16 and 18) as they may contain heavy metal residue. I looked real quick in one of my references and they contain: Oxides of Strontium and Phosphorus, Cadmium, Toluene and other toxic hazards.

As far as mutilation goes, you can crush, shred, perforate or melt them.



Holy cow....

Thanks for the info...I think I am going to pass on these shells. Sounds a bit complicated.

Now...there are a ton of auctions for copper wire....hmmmmmm

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hobo finds
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Posted - 01/25/2010 :  19:33:54  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
what do they want you to do to the wire?
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tyoon21
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52 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  20:00:38  Show Profile Send tyoon21 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hobo finds

what do they want you to do to the wire?



Same thing..."must mutilate prior to obtaining title to the goods"

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Flbandit
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USA
851 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2010 :  09:11:11  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message
I dunno, that could be an endangered frog in the first picture!

Are you throwing that out?
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