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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 11/15/2009 :  14:57:36  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
Can anyone tell me how much this wire goes for? Its not insulated, its just about three strands twisted and has a green coat to it, is it number one copper or are there other alloys in it? i have been able to get around 100 lbs of this stuff but i dont want to take it to the scrap yard without knowing what i have, thanks.

natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 11/15/2009 :  15:10:39  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
By overhead electric wire, do you mean wires between phone/electrical poles? That wire is rarely copper. Usually aluminum, sometimes galvanized steel, or sometimes copper plated over one or the other. Copper is too expensive and heavy to run between poles in most applications. Even the run between the pole and your house is typically aluminum.

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RyanAKL
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USA
224 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2009 :  19:50:40  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
yes i am talking about that kind of wire, i do agree with you that most utility wire is aluminum or steel but this is most definatly copper, its from my father in laws farm so maybe its been there for a while.
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redneck
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Posted - 11/16/2009 :  06:27:12  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message

Bend easily ?

Magnetic check ?

File check ?

Cut it open ?

Could easily be copper...

Or copper coated steel like they use in ground rods...

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Bart
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Canada
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Posted - 11/16/2009 :  20:38:46  Show Profile Send Bart a Private Message

If the wire is aluminium it will has a steel core there just for strength & support surrounded by the aluminium. The ground wires on some of these are solid copper almost 1/4" round- I don't know what gauge.

In the older parts of town each pole will have a twisted strand ground wire. In some neighbourhoods these disappear pretty quick.

Best regard, Bart

Nice. Yes. Very nice.
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EZ_Money
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USA
125 Posts

Posted - 11/18/2009 :  19:33:47  Show Profile Send EZ_Money a Private Message
If it is old... it could be solid copper. I have pulled alot off my farm land that used to run beside old railroad tracks. I have some that is a single strand maybe 3/16" and some that is three strands wound equalling about the same.

Running total:
Halves searched:$14,445.50
90% found: 122
40% found: 481

Dimes Searched $2100
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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  20:59:28  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
that sounds like what i have, is yours green on the outside?
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EZ_Money
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USA
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Posted - 11/19/2009 :  19:40:06  Show Profile Send EZ_Money a Private Message
Yes it is green and solid copper. File into the side of some of the wire and make sure it is solid copper. There is no insulation on the outside of the wire...

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Halves searched:$14,445.50
90% found: 122
40% found: 481

Dimes Searched $2100
Found: 5
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silversaddle1
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USA
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Posted - 11/22/2009 :  06:35:58  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
Sounds like it could be 2 and 1 wire. That means it would have two copper strands and one steel strand. Seperate the steel strand from the copper and sell the copper as #1 copper. The steel strand may or may not be copper plated, so test with a magnet.
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RyanAKL
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Posted - 11/24/2009 :  20:11:23  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

Sounds like it could be 2 and 1 wire. That means it would have two copper strands and one steel strand. Seperate the steel strand from the copper and sell the copper as #1 copper. The steel strand may or may not be copper plated, so test with a magnet.


Yeah your right, there is a steel strand in the middle but the rest is copper. do you think it would be worth the time taking that steel out, i have probably 200'??
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hobo finds
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Posted - 11/24/2009 :  21:09:40  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
I would do it. I got $1.80 a pound for #2 copper in Aug. It must be higher now...
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silversaddle1
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USA
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Posted - 11/25/2009 :  15:06:48  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by RyanAKL

quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

Sounds like it could be 2 and 1 wire. That means it would have two copper strands and one steel strand. Seperate the steel strand from the copper and sell the copper as #1 copper. The steel strand may or may not be copper plated, so test with a magnet.


Yeah your right, there is a steel strand in the middle but the rest is copper. do you think it would be worth the time taking that steel out, i have probably 200'??



Very much so! If you can, cut it down into three foot pieces, it will make separating it much, much easier.
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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 11/26/2009 :  10:25:45  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

quote:
Originally posted by RyanAKL

quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

Sounds like it could be 2 and 1 wire. That means it would have two copper strands and one steel strand. Seperate the steel strand from the copper and sell the copper as #1 copper. The steel strand may or may not be copper plated, so test with a magnet.


Yeah your right, there is a steel strand in the middle but the rest is copper. do you think it would be worth the time taking that steel out, i have probably 200'??


good idea, thanks for the help everyone.

Very much so! If you can, cut it down into three foot pieces, it will make separating it much, much easier.

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wolvesdad
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USA
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Posted - 11/29/2009 :  15:10:51  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
I understand the scraping idea....

But if I had 200 feet of this stuff I would be tempted to just keep it for some practical use later on.

It pretty much keeps in good quality even this old, doesn't it??????

Course if I really needed the money I would go ahead and sell 150 feet! ;)

"May your percentages ever increase!"
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silversaddle1
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USA
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Posted - 11/30/2009 :  01:58:55  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by wolvesdad

I understand the scraping idea....

But if I had 200 feet of this stuff I would be tempted to just keep it for some practical use later on.

It pretty much keeps in good quality even this old, doesn't it??????

Course if I really needed the money I would go ahead and sell 150 feet! ;)



Keep in mind this is bare wire, no insulation.
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wolvesdad
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USA
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Posted - 11/30/2009 :  06:17:21  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
Yeah, I know. You'd need insulators(porcelain ones, etc).

But if the sh#t hit the fan, you could manage some of your own energy needs with this stuff...possibly.

Anyway, there may be better choices nowadays and plenty of alternatives. I was just thinking.....

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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  00:16:37  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
well i sold halve of it (as is), came out to be 50lbs i got $70 for it, im happy with that, the rest i will cut up.
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wolvesdad
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USA
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  13:24:39  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
OH.... that is a little lower than I thought you would have gotten for it.

I would have thought $75 at least... or even more...$90 or so.

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Posted - 12/14/2009 :  21:58:27  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
The two strands of copper you removed are called hard drawn copper, this is considered number 1 copper and goes for 2.40 per pound.
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