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jadedragon
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  01:54:13  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
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I have no experience with this, but this looks like a good article. Comments?

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PennySaved
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  04:45:26  Show Profile Send PennySaved a Private Message
It looks kind of complicated; is the amount of gold you recover worth the time and effort?

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silversaddle1
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  06:49:30  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
Well I have been recycling computers for about 10 years now. Granted, most of the stuff I do is large, mainframe type stuff, but yes, if you are willing to do the work, you can make money at this. #1 rule is it's not a get rich quick type of thing. If you can get a good steady supply of old computers and tear them down in your spare time, $5-10,000.00 a year is not out of the question. I have a friend in Omaha who I taught how to recycle computers. He is a full time plumber so he does this in his spare time. Desktop type computers only. Without refining any of the gold himself, he is still making around 10 grand a year at it. And that's selling all the sorted components to our local scrap yard.
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cuppoor
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USA
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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  21:45:58  Show Profile Send cuppoor a Private Message
I don't know if anyone watches these old threads but that article is kinda goofy. Aqua Regina??!??
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coppertone
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Canada
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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  23:09:11  Show Profile Send coppertone a Private Message
Looks simple enough. Could use a 12V battery charger as a power source. Aqua Regina should be Aqua Regia.
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Market Harmony
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USA
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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  23:52:46  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
The process in the article seems overly complicated to me.

If you've got a large enough container, why not dump the gold-containing processors into the container with aqua regia? Once the gold is dissolved then you filter out the non-metal. Rinse and discard the non-metal waste, and keep the liquid, as it will contain dissolved gold. Then drop the gold from solution with sodium metabisulfite. Filter the sponge, and melt... you should have 99.5% gold. A second aqua regia & sodium metabisulfite treatment will bring the purity to .999+

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cuppoor
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  09:30:52  Show Profile Send cuppoor a Private Message
MH, wouldn't you want to break open the processors to expose the gold chip to frame wire bonds too? Those are either gold or aluminum. I'm thinking minimizing the amount of junk in the acid solution would make things less muddy. Have you or anyone else actually done this and won some gold? I know it would be easier to just sell the stuff on ebay but the geek in me makes me want to try it.

And what do you guys think about Amalgamite 982 and cupellation?
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Market Harmony
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  10:23:54  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
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Originally posted by cuppoor

MH, wouldn't you want to break open the processors to expose the gold chip to frame wire bonds too? Those are either gold or aluminum. I'm thinking minimizing the amount of junk in the acid solution would make things less muddy. Have you or anyone else actually done this and won some gold? I know it would be easier to just sell the stuff on ebay but the geek in me makes me want to try it.

And what do you guys think about Amalgamite 982 and cupellation?



It may be better to crush and dissolve, or better yet to crush then incinerate then dissolve.

I've done a lot of refining of gold and silver. Most of it was karat gold and dental waste. I've only done small experiments with Ewaste.

I don't know anything about Amalgamite. Cupellation is for doing fire assays... I'm not sure how you could use it for refining, but maybe you can teach me something.

Here's a relevant video to this discussion:


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cuppoor
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USA
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  12:09:03  Show Profile Send cuppoor a Private Message
MH on second thought, the potential gold in the chip wire bonds is probably so little compared to the connector pins that it doesn't warrant breaking the chips open. Just dip the whole thing in aqua regia until the gold is off and get it out of there. No I've never done this but I have done electroplating copper. I design circuit boards and I'm at a loss as to where there is silver used in a recoverable amount. I know palladium is used on tantalum capacitors but you would need truckloads of them. Nice video. They left out the step where you precipitate the gold powder out of the acid. Funny how they got the fish and chips reference in there. You could probably teach me a lot more than I could you. I have checked out your website a few times and can't figure out where exactly you're located. How big is your operation?

Here is the ebay listing for amalgamite:

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And for cupellation from a somewhat dubious source:

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Market Harmony
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USA
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  12:32:27  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
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...I have checked out your website a few times and can't figure out where exactly you're located. How big is your operation?

Here is the ebay listing for amalgamite:

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My business is located in Western Pennsylvania. And the size of it is somewhere between a jewelers shop and the Royal Canadian Mint

If amalgamation was so easy, I would assume that it would be industry standard practice. Instead, most refineries will use the aqua regia method and mining operations will use the cyanide leaching method.

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