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AmalekiDad
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 Posted - 09/28/2009 : 15:04:33
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Hey All - found my first Indian Head last week (1906).
Another first today. I have a 1992-D with no copper coating. Are these common? Are they worth anything This is a AU sliver color penny.
Sorry the pictures are a little grainy. It is pretty shiny though.
Thanks
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Edited by - AmalekiDad on 09/28/2009 22:15:13 |
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Kurr
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sheba
Penny Pincher Member
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2009 : 18:00:50
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Congrats on your IHC find.
I found a 1998 D zinc without the copper coating. Local coin dealer paid $30.00 for it.
One key thing I learned was that if the uncoated coin is bright and shiny, it is likely a true mint error that can be worth some 'bucks'.
However, if the uncoated coin has a dull look to the surface it probably has been chemically treated to remove the copper coating.
I'm no expert, but I think this is accurate information.
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biglouddrunk
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 09/29/2009 : 00:56:08
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| I wonder how professional graders can tell the difference. It would be no trick to remove the copper then flash some bright zinc plate on it. |
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AgCollector
Penny Collector Member
USA
266 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 06:39:21
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Originally posted by biglouddrunk
I wonder how professional graders can tell the difference. It would be no trick to remove the copper then flash some bright zinc plate on it.
One give-away for that scenario is that most zinc cents, when struck, produce small bubbles between the copper and zinc layer. When the copper is removed, the bubbles are still visible on the zinc. This doesn't happen on an unplated cent. |
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 09/29/2009 : 15:42:34
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| If i get around to it. I'll post the one i found. But that requires so much effort... COngrats on the find! |
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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1664 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 20:08:10
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| Also the weight will be different on a true zinc cent compared to one that has had the copper removed then re-plated |
Inquiring minds want to know |
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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1664 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 20:09:19
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| and congrats on your find AmalekiDad and welcome! |
Inquiring minds want to know |
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G Powerbuck
Penny Collector Member
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 20:23:01
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| Welcome and congrats on the two great finds. You never know what you are gonna find. |
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cycleflier
New Member
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:20:23
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Like "Sheba" from Post of - 09/28/2009 : 18:00:50, I also found a 1998-D unplated zinc Lincoln penny (same year and mint). I pulled it from a roll out of a batch of 20 rolls of pennys from a bank in northern Illnois on 12/31/09. It is AU to Unc in appearance, and shows no scratch lines or telltale signs of tampering to remove the outer copper coating. It had the appearanc of a 1943 zinc plated steel penny in Unc condition. I don't have a digital camera to shoot a photo, but if I can get my hands on one, I will post a picture... very strange looking when the roll spilled out of the wrapper!
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bankmining
Penny Pincher Member
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:27:49
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| Welcome to RC cycleflier! |
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twocents
Penny Collector Member
398 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:28:50
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| I have a 1969 cent that looks like that. I just assumed it was somehow plated, aftermarket. If someone thinks otherwise, let me know. |
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Shattered
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
523 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:30:54
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| Welcome Cycleflyer. Cool find, those errors are cool looking. |
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kirkland
New Member
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:54:10
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| Wow. I found a blank planchet penny a couple days ago, but I haven't yet found one like yours. Congrats! |
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dakota1955
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 20:09:55
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| great find for you |
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rodebaugh
Penny Collector Member
USA
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myfundsarelow
Penny Collector Member
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2010 : 00:36:29
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| i also found one 1988 zinc cent,great shape minius the copper plating it also has a gift package inprinted to the right of lincolns face PEACE !! |
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Cerulean
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
993 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2010 : 13:23:05
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| I've always assumed the planchets were copper plated before being stamped. Is this not the case? |
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dixiebooks
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 21:41:36
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| OK, how weird is this? I just got through reading this thread then went to quick sort another bag of pennies. (I'm quick sorting in anticipation of the arrival of my Ryedale in the next few days.) Anyhoo, I read these posts and then got not even 1/4 of the way through this bag and found one. I think. The heads side has the normal copper coating. The tails side is just zinc. The edge is also uncoated. Strange. First for me. I've had a rash of firsts the last week or so...oughta start a "my first ______" thread. -js |
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uthminsta
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USA
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 21:54:55
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Originally posted by Cerulean I've always assumed the planchets were copper plated before being stamped. Is this not the case?
I think they press them then add the plating, because if they plated them first, the plating would "break" too often. But I don't know this. I have seen plenty of cents with what seems to be separation of the plating around some of the design edges. Perhaps it cracks as or after it is being put on.
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biglouddrunk
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 02/09/2010 : 23:03:30
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| I am no mint employee, but I am a bit of an electroplating expert. I am unsure whether they press copper on then plate or just plate. I suspect however they just plate the zinc because to me it would seem the cheapest and most reliable way. I would guess they barrel plate first using a CuCN copper strike bath to seal the zinc and add most of the copper. They would probably then run it through a CuSO4 acid copper bath to make them shinny. For whatever reason the cyanide coppers never look as shinny as acid coppers. |
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knibloe
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 05:54:31
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| I have found several pennies like this one and always thrown them back. I'm gonna take a closer look next time. |
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