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 Posted - 07/20/2009 : 11:40:29
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I've gotten a few in my CWR. The shotguns have all been correct.
Is there anything you can do about getting short rolls?
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 11:45:18
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It all part of the cost of searching the CWRs. As you search the CWRs, you will find that the payback in silvers  is much much more than a few shorted coins. |
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 12:10:38
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Hi olgranddad,
I agree with Country, after a while you just consider the loss part of the price of finding a 90% silver 1964 and it largely lands in your favor. I don't really ever find CWRs for halves so you're lucky, I get boxes from CWI and they are also occasionally short. I have also presented these rolls to the bank the box came from. Most of the tellers are willing to accept your claims, but I didn't feel good about getting 1 or 2 dollars from the bank that's helping you coin search.
One particular bank in Burlington, VT, the bank manager suspected I was lying. So i brought a CWI roll to the bank that had not been opened but was clearly short and had the manager open it. I was credited the difference, but the relationship was never very pleasant afterwards.
Bottom line the banks are doing you a service they don't really have to do, and they could just as easily refuse your requests or start charging you fees.
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 12:19:59
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I have mixed feelings on this only because my last box was short about $5 and change due to pennies and quarters getting into the rolls, and a couple being 1 half short. I wouldn't care as much if I had received even one lousy 40% but there wasn't even that in the box. I didn't say anything to the woman who ordered the boxes for me because I don't want to ruin a good thing.
I do know this though...she told me that they don't get charged any more if they order their usual coin box supply, or if they piggyback some for me. I don't go overboard on it, because they still have to do the work of checking them in, putting them in the vault, retrieving from the vault, and the transaction where change goes out and FRN's go in. That's why I keep my orders to a minimum, because I know they are doing me a favor.
Now if my volume were to go up on halves, and I was seeing consistent shortages like this, then I would say something more as an FYI to the bank so that other customers do not get shorted, and in the hopes that my future boxes don't either.
In the end though, you have to decide if it's worth jeopardizing your source bank to fight over a few bucks. There's no right or wrong answer and it will depend on your situation/relationship with your bank. |
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JobIII
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 13:39:54
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Coinhunter, IF you are getting these halves fed wrapped look to see if they are damages or small before opening them. Yes it's a hassle, but the tellers will be able to see first hand that the rolls are not complete. I have never had more than 3-4 dollars lost from a single box, and you usually have an idea that it's a bad box by looking at how the rolls come wrapped.
It is a Tough spot to be in, best of luck,
~ JobIII |
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oober
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 15:21:08
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Originally posted by CoinHunter53562
I have mixed feelings on this only because my last box was short about $5 and change due to pennies and quarters getting into the rolls, and a couple being 1 half short. I wouldn't care as much if I had received even one lousy 40% but there wasn't even that in the box. I didn't say anything to the woman who ordered the boxes for me because I don't want to ruin a good thing.
I do know this though...she told me that they don't get charged any more if they order their usual coin box supply, or if they piggyback some for me. I don't go overboard on it, because they still have to do the work of checking them in, putting them in the vault, retrieving from the vault, and the transaction where change goes out and FRN's go in. That's why I keep my orders to a minimum, because I know they are doing me a favor.
Now if my volume were to go up on halves, and I was seeing consistent shortages like this, then I would say something more as an FYI to the bank so that other customers do not get shorted, and in the hopes that my future boxes don't either.
In the end though, you have to decide if it's worth jeopardizing your source bank to fight over a few bucks. There's no right or wrong answer and it will depend on your situation/relationship with your bank.
Coinhunter, since we are in same state. I wonder if we are sharing the same lot... You have any boxes lately from 2007? |
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1805 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 15:46:06
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Originally posted by oober
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Originally posted by CoinHunter53562
I have mixed feelings on this only because my last box was short about $5 and change due to pennies and quarters getting into the rolls, and a couple being 1 half short. I wouldn't care as much if I had received even one lousy 40% but there wasn't even that in the box. I didn't say anything to the woman who ordered the boxes for me because I don't want to ruin a good thing.
I do know this though...she told me that they don't get charged any more if they order their usual coin box supply, or if they piggyback some for me. I don't go overboard on it, because they still have to do the work of checking them in, putting them in the vault, retrieving from the vault, and the transaction where change goes out and FRN's go in. That's why I keep my orders to a minimum, because I know they are doing me a favor.
Now if my volume were to go up on halves, and I was seeing consistent shortages like this, then I would say something more as an FYI to the bank so that other customers do not get shorted, and in the hopes that my future boxes don't either.
In the end though, you have to decide if it's worth jeopardizing your source bank to fight over a few bucks. There's no right or wrong answer and it will depend on your situation/relationship with your bank.
Coinhunter, since we are in same state. I wonder if we are sharing the same lot... You have any boxes lately from 2007?
Hi Oober...no. I have drastically cut back on half searching due to the constant skunks and being shorted often enough to stop doing it. I'm sure we are probably getting some of the same lot though since we are in the same Fed Reserve District. I really should get back in the game on doing this since I won't find anything by doing nothing. |
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oober
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2009 : 16:18:58
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You are correct. You can't win or lose without trying... I keep saying to myself I will hit something one of these days...
Most of yours string boxes? |
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1805 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2009 : 16:59:36
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Originally posted by oober
You are correct. You can't win or lose without trying... I keep saying to myself I will hit something one of these days...
Most of yours string boxes?
Yep all of them are, chock full of clad halves, with about 6 different markings on them from other sorters...lol. |
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G Powerbuck
Penny Collector Member
USA
256 Posts |
Posted - 07/21/2009 : 16:52:13
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| I have been getting NF String boxes for a while but I just realized that they aren't actually the rollers. Dunbar services my bank. Are they the same, or is Dunbar normally working with NF String as a supplier, or are there many companies that just use the NF String supplies? |
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myfundsarelow
Penny Collector Member
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2009 : 22:13:10
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| IN all my searching of cent rolls, i have had the good furtune to pick plenty of wheats also a good number of blackend dimes keep searching copper is on to rise. PEACE!! |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 07/22/2009 : 22:32:46
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Short rolls happen. They seem to happen more on quarters and halves though. With dimes you seem to average out between the long and short rolls so it is not a big deal. It really hurts to get a nickel in one of those quarter rolls instead of 2 quarters though.
One solution is to take a scale with you. With a small digital scale you can quickly check the weight of each roll as the teller slides them over to you and just hand back the light/short ones. For larger quantities I have a vendor scale that is very accurate. You just pile the rolls on the top of it and it tells you exactly how many coins are in the pile if they are all clad. You could also check a handful of rolls at a time quickly with it. Of course if there is silver in the rolls they are going to come in a bit heavy.. but that is ok. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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Dan52
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2009 : 22:39:49
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| What burns me is when you buy a 10 roll bundle of cwr dimes and each roll is EXACTLY one dime short. But its like everyone else has said....its the cost of doing business. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 07/22/2009 : 22:42:41
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| You just pop the bundle on the big scale and it tells you right away that it is a buck short. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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