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jtm3
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 Posted - 12/20/2009 : 19:43:50
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Okay, shaving razor I use is an old Gem Micromatic...
...anyway, it uses Stainless Steel single edge blades. I go through about one every 2-3 weeks (I'm not a daily shaver yet and realize it could take a while to amass a considerable amount ) and was wondering if there was a way to scrap these. I realize that the sharp edges could cause a problem, even if I do file them down.
If there isn't a a market for these to scrappers, do any of you know of reliable casting furnaces that could melt the steel. Would strength or any thing else be affected by repeated melting?
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bman
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Posted - 12/20/2009 : 20:24:22
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| I'm sure a scrap yard would take them if you put them into a safe container, the question is what grade of stainless steel the blades are. The grade will affect the value. It would take quite some time to make it worth a trip to the scrap yard with them. How many does it take to make a pound? |
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jtm3
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Posted - 12/20/2009 : 20:41:55
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| Ha, it will probably take 8 or 9 months to make a pound. When I get a job I am planning on saving up for a furnace, so I'll just hold onto them untill then. |
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moboman
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 00:02:17
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The melting point of stainless is about 2600 degrees, IIRC. That would take a lot of heat from your furnace.
I think you'd be better of just throwing them away and forgetting about getting a furnace. You'll never pay it off recycling razor blades. Put the money in the bank and draw off the interest 
Hate to ruin it for you, just dont want to see you waste your money chasing after what you think will be a profit maker.
Your scrap yard might take them if you put them in a glass or plastic container. You can always call them and ask them. Or just get the phone book out and call all of the ones around you and ask what they would pay and how they would prefer to get them. |
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simplicitycounts
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 10:11:33
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| Check it with a magnet. If a magnet sticks just mix them with your iron / steel you bring in. I put razor blades inside of a tin with a lid (popcorn/cookie tin) along with nails / screws. That way they don't end up in someones tire. True stainless does not stick to magnet. Stainless that sticks to a magnet is not nonferrous. |
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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 10:58:01
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True stainless does not stick to magnet.
I've heard this mis-conception a lot it seems.
There are both magnetic and non-magnetic stainless steels.
From: You must be logged in to see this link. (just a quick googled example):
Stainless steel is used primarily when corrosion or oxidation is a problem. The function that they perform cannot be duplicated by other materials for their cost. Over 50 years ago, it was discovered that a minimum of 12% chromium would impart corrosion and oxidation resistance to steel. Hence the definition “Stainless Steels”, are those ferrous alloys that contain a minimum of 12% chromium for corrosion resistance. This development was the start of a family of alloys which has enabled the advancement and growth of chemical processing and power generating systems upon which our technological society is based.
Subsequently several important sub-categories of stainless steels have been developed. The sub-categories are austenitic, martensitic, ferritic, duplex, precipitation hardening and super alloys.
Austenitic grades are those alloys which are commonly in use for stainless applications. The austenitic grades are not magnetic. The most common austenitic alloys are iron-chromium-nickel steels and are widely known as the 300 series.
Martensitic grades of stainless steel ...are magnetic and can be hardened by heat treating. The martensitic grades are mainly used where hardness, strength, and wear resistance are required. (typically grades 410 - 440)
Ferritic grades have been developed to provide a group of stainless steel to resist corrosion and oxidation, while being highly resistant to stress corrosion cracking. These steels are magnetic but cannot be hardened or strengthened by heat treatment. (typically grades 430 - 446)
So the Austenitic grades are the non-magnetic ones, but they're are grades of stainless that are magnetic, as noted above. |
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hobo finds
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 12:25:16
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| True on the stainless but at my yard if a magnet sticks it will be counted as dirty stainless and you get $.15 a pound for it... |
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simplicitycounts
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 13:00:07
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| interesting, at my yard if a magnet sticks it goes in with iron |
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hobo finds
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Posted - 12/21/2009 : 19:05:22
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| funny I do the same thing with my nails and other sharp things. If it's metal it can be scraped! |
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 01:15:15
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Isn't misinformation wonderful!
Isn't steel a word that is limited to a ferrous alloy?
Then stainless steel is always ferrous!
But the alloyed metals are the ones that 'neutralize' the magnetism. Non-magnetic stainless is a good thing, but it still has iron it it!! |
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jtm3
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 Posted - 12/23/2009 : 01:19:14
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So does that mean is is worth more if it is magnetic, or less? |
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hobo finds
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 09:29:40
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| less if it sticks to a magnet |
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Kurr
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 10:33:41
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Austenite and martensite are things that form during the heating of iron.
Austenite (or gamma phase iron) is a metallic non-magnetic allotrope of iron or a solid solution of iron, with an alloying element.[1] In plain-carbon steel, austenite exists above the critical eutectoid temperature of 1000 K (about 727 °C); other alloys of steel have different eutectoid temperatures. It is named after Sir William Chandler Roberts-Austen (1843-1902).[2]
The martensite is formed by rapid cooling (quenching) of austenite which traps carbon atoms that do not have time to diffuse out of the crystal structure. Since chemical processes (the attainment of equilibrium) accelerate at higher temperature, martensite is easily destroyed by the application of heat. This process is called tempering.
Both of these will occur in plain carbon steel when the proper temperature range is hit.
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 12:25:41
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| Make me one while you are at it, if you consent then I'll email you the desired specs! |
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Kurr
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 18:37:07
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In 2004, I bought a house that was built in 1950. It had one single owner until I purchased it from the 88 year old couple who sold it to me.
It had one of those old medicine cabinets in it that had a slot for disposal of old shaving razor blades. You pushed the razor blade into the slot and it went inside the wall. I never heard of this but I guess it was common as I asked my mother and she knew about it. Anyway, when I opened the wall up during remodeling, at least three feet of Wilkenson Sword razor blades were inside this wall. I'm not kidding you. I wish I had taken a photo as there had to be 100 pounds of razors blades inside the wall. I was disgusted and had to pick them up with welding gloves and box them up for the trash. |
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thogey
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 21:34:13
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This forum is awesome. When I read the first entry to this thread I thought it would burn out in 1 or 2 replys. Now look, we have hard-core metalurgy and a really wierd story about 100 pounds of dirty razors disposed of behind a medicine cabinet wall. How many of you have done the calculation to determine the value of what that scrap stainless was in 2004? Do Wilkensen Sword razor blades stick to a magnet?
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jtm3
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Posted - 12/23/2009 : 22:15:44
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Well if it is magnetic like my Gem rezors( ), then if he scrapped it he should have gotten $10 per 100 pounds.
But I have a thread on StraightRazorPlace about them and hopefully someone will chime in on its magnetism. |
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Posted - 12/24/2009 : 13:16:07
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A rule with Stainless is the higher the alloy content, the less magnetic. Most stainless is alloyed with chromium but some is alloyed with nickel. Nickel, by the way, is also magnetic.
Check your stainless steel flatware with a magnet. It's low grade stainless and highly magnetic. |
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Posted - 12/24/2009 : 14:20:50
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Originally posted by jtm3
Well if it is magnetic like my Gem rezors(), then if he scrapped it he should have gotten $10 per 100 pounds.
But I have a thread on StraightRazorPlace about them and hopefully someone will chime in on its magnetism.
I didn't scrap them. I just boxed them up and put them in the trash. I'll never forget when I tore out that old wall. What a shock when all that metal came pouring out. I was totally blown away at the volume of razor blades. Are there any old timers on this forum who remember these medicine cabinets with the slot in them? If you live in an older house and have an original medicine cabinet, check it to see if they have what looks like a coin slot in it.
Here's a link that shows what they look like:
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More on razor blades inside of walls:
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"You'll often find hundreds of these in a wall where a sink was or is located," says Tony Sassi, a retired art teacher who lives in the historic Stockade area of Schenectady, N.Y. "There would have been a metal slot in the wall next to the sink to dispose of single- or double-edge Gillette razor blades. There wasn't trash pickup or recycling like we have today, so in addition to the back yard or the privy, hollow walls often served as a disposal site for unwanted items."
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hey_yeo
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Posted - 12/24/2009 : 15:16:11
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Originally posted by thogey
Do Wilkensen Sword razor blades stick to a magnet?
Yes they do, the double edge blades I have stick to a magnet. |
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thogey
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Posted - 12/25/2009 : 21:03:57
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| The razor blade thread countinues...... |
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jtm3
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Posted - 12/25/2009 : 23:20:50
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So, I have about fifteen blades now. Thats about 4 cents, right!
Well it's money, and four cents are a lot easier to sort through for copper than 2500. |
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simplicitycounts
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Posted - 12/28/2009 : 00:14:08
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| When I remodeled my bathroom I found about 20 razor blades in the wall. They all looked new so I'm guessing they fell down the crack in the back of the old medicine cabinet. |
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thogey
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Posted - 12/28/2009 : 20:34:10
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| Please don't let he razor blade thread die. |
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Computer Jones
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Posted - 12/28/2009 : 22:03:53
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[quote]Originally posted by thogey
Please don't let he razor blade thread die.
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