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UN predicts rise in global cereal production but warns prices will remain high
14 February 2008 – The United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) today predicted a rise in world cereal production this year but warned that prices will remain at record levels and could even increase.
Greater anticipated production is resulting from winter grain plantings and good weather among major producers in Europe and in the United States, coupled with a generally satisfactory outlook elsewhere, according to FAO’s latest Crop Prospects and Food Situation report.
But with dwindling stocks, continuing strong demand for cereals is keeping international prices high, despite a record world harvest last season, the report said. International wheat prices last month were 83 per cent higher than in January 2007.
Poor countries where food is scarce are expected to import less cereal but pay more, FAO said. “Cereal imports for all Low-Income Food-Deficit countries in 2007-08 are forecast to decline by about 2 per cent in volume, but as a result of soaring international cereal prices and freight rates, their cereal import bill is projected to rise by 35 per cent for the second consecutive year,” the agency said in a news release.
Worldwide, 36 countries are currently facing food crises, according to the report.
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Dangerous wheat-killing fungus detected in Iran – UN
Wheat rust fungus
5 March 2008 – A dangerous new fungus with the ability to destroy entire wheat fields has been detected in Iran, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) reported today.
The wheat stem rust, whose spores are carried by wind across continents, was previously found in East Africa and Yemen and has moved to Iran, which said that laboratory tests have confirmed its presence in some localities in Broujerd and Hamedan in the country’s west.
Up to 80 per cent of all Asian and African wheat varieties are susceptible to the fungus, and major wheat-producing nations to Iran’s east – such as Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan – should be on high alert, FAO warned.
“The fungus is spreading rapidly and could seriously lower wheat production in countries at direct risk,” said Shivaji Pandey, Director of FAO’s Plant Production and Protection Division.
He urged the control of the rust’s spread to lower the risk to countries already impacted by high food prices.
Iran has said that it will bolster its research capacity to tackle the new fungus and develop wheat varieties that are rust-resistant.
Called Ug99, the disease first surfaced in Uganda and subsequently spread to Kenya and Ethiopia, with both countries experiencing serious crop yield losses due to a serious rust epidemic last year. Also in 2007, FAO confirmed that a more virulent strain was found in Yemen.
The agency appealed to countries to bolster disease surveillance and step up efforts to control it.
The Borlaug Global Rust Initiative (BGRI) – founded by Norman Borlaug, Cornell University, the International Center for Agricultural Research in the Dry Areas (ICARDA), the Internatioanl Maize and Wheat Improvement Center (CIMMYT) and FAO – will continue its work in assisting countries develop drug-resistant wheat varieties, upgrading their plant protection measures and creating contingency plans. |
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OK, let's think about some things...what can we do for ourselves, our families and our communities right now and continue to do them to help blunt the impact of something like this where we live? Community gardens? Seed co-ops? Farmers markets? Let's hash our some ideas and post some links that could help...
Planting a fruit tree or two might help as well. Oh perhaps we can get our government to stop paying farmers not to grow food. . . . just a thought. |
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I think between GM genes and new bio threats such as this, greenhouses are the future. Preferably hydroponic/solar greenhouses.
I think russia has a HUGE very succsefull one near Moscow.
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I had the idea the other day of using aluminum framing and vynal windows with the solar for pumps, lights and 5gl buckets for resevoirs. Mount it on a 8x8-16 ft utility trailer, and make it bi-level, you have a self sufficiant year round, pull behind garden for your truck or RV. maybe vent the exhaust in for extra CO2, lol!
Dwarf fruit trees in buckets, hanging vines like beans, peas, 'maters, etc. I dunno, my .o2 |
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LOS ANGELES, June 14 (UPI) -- Scientists are trying to develop wheat strains resistant to a fungus that has spread from Africa to Iran and is likely to show up soon in India and Pakistan.
The Ug99 fungus, also known as stem rust, is likely to spread worldwide, either through wind-blown spores or carried inadvertently by people, food industry analysts said.
"It's a time bomb," Jim Peterson, an expert on wheat genetics at Oregon State University in Corvallis, told the Los Angeles Times. "It moves in the air, it can move in clothing on an airplane. We know it's going to be here. It's a matter of how long it's going to take."
Stem rust is a longtime bane of wheat farmers and afflicted wheat's wild ancestors before that. The United States has had major outbreaks of fungus, most recently in 1962 when more than 5 percent of the crop was killed.
Resistant strains of wheat apparently overcame the problem. But a new strain appeared in Uganda in 1999 and began spreading from there.
Government scientists at the Cereal Disease Laboratory in St. Paul, Minn., have begun work on wheat resistant to the latest fungus. But the process can take a decade or so.
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A devastating strain of stem rust (Puccinia graminis), a fungus that infects wheat, is moving out of Africa towards wheat growing regions on other continents. Called Ug99, it was identified in Uganda and classified in 1999.
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Killer Wheat Fungus Headed for US: World Hunger Feared
June 14, 2009
(ChattahBox)—An ancient fungus, called stem rust that has been plaguing wheat crops since biblical times is now once again, devastating wheat crops across the bread baskets of Africa, Iran and possibly Pakistan and is on its way to Asia much earlier than predicted. It’s only a matter of time before it infects U.S. wheat.
The new stem rust variant, called Ug99 was first detected in Uganda in 1999 and has the potential to wipe out nearly 80 percent of the world’s wheat crop, causing worldwide hunger.
Skyrocketing food prices, food shortages, worldwide hunger and famine await us, unless scientists can beat the clock and come up with a disease resistant wheat strain before it’s too late. Unfortunately, the world is just waking up to the threat.
Developing new wheat varieties that resist Ug99 can take up to five years. Scientists in Syria, China and the United States are now furiously working to combat this killer fungus. Fungicides would provide a short-term solution, but what is ultimately needed are disease resistant varieties of wheat containing several resistant genes.
Scientists thought they would have had more time to produce the necessary resistant wheat genes, but a cyclone that hit the Arabian Peninsula in 2007 changed the direction of the prevailing winds, depositing the fungus spores in Iran a year earlier.
The terrain in Iran presents ideal conditions for the fungus to multiply, as Iran is covered with barberry bushes, which the fungus uses to sexually produce new resistant stem rust strains.
Scientists call the spread of Ug99 a ticking time bomb, which could explode in North America at any moment. Ug99 is readying to enter the breadbaskets of northern India and Pakistan, and from there, it’s headed to Russia, China and North America.
But since the spores are carried by the wind, the fungus could become attached to a person’s clothing or cargo and hitch a ride in an airplane to the United States, at any time.
If the Ug99 and its variants reaches the U.S. sooner than expected, $10 billion worth of wheat would be destroyed.
Scientists warn a worldwide famine and a catastrophic humanitarian crisis, resulting from Ug99, is only a matter of time. |
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A 'time bomb' for world wheat crop
The Ug99 fungus, called stem rust, could wipe out more than 80% of the world's wheat as it spreads from Africa, scientists fear. The race is on to breed resistant plants before it reaches the U.S.
By Karen Kaplan
June 14, 2009
The spores arrived from Kenya on dried, infected leaves ensconced in layers of envelopes.
Working inside a bio-secure greenhouse outfitted with motion detectors and surveillance cameras, government scientists at the Cereal Disease Laboratory in St. Paul, Minn., suspended the fungal spores in a light mineral oil and sprayed them onto thousands of healthy wheat plants. After two weeks, the stalks were covered with deadly reddish blisters characteristic of the scourge known as Ug99.
Nearly all the plants were goners.
Crop scientists fear the Ug99 fungus could wipe out more than 80% of worldwide wheat crops as it spreads from eastern Africa. It has already jumped the Red Sea and traveled as far as Iran. Experts say it is poised to enter the breadbasket of northern India and Pakistan, and the wind will inevitably carry it to Russia, China and even North America -- if it doesn't hitch a ride with people first.
"It's a time bomb," said Jim Peterson, a professor of wheat breeding and genetics at Oregon State University in Corvallis. "It moves in the air, it can move in clothing on an airplane. We know it's going to be here. It's a matter of how long it's going to take."
Though most Americans have never heard of it, Ug99 -- a type of fungus called stem rust because it produces reddish-brown flakes on plant stalks -- is the No. 1 threat to the world's most widely grown crop.
The International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center in Mexico estimates that 19% of the world's wheat, which provides food for 1 billion people in Asia and Africa, is in imminent danger. American plant breeders say $10 billion worth of wheat would be destroyed if the fungus suddenly made its way to U.S. fields.
Fear that the fungus will cause widespread damage has caused short-term price spikes on world wheat markets. Famine has been averted thus far, but experts say it's only a matter of time.
"A significant humanitarian crisis is inevitable," said Rick Ward, the coordinator of the Durable Rust Resistance in Wheat project at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y.
The solution is to develop new wheat varieties that are immune to Ug99. That's much easier said than done.
After several years of feverish work, scientists have identified a mere half-dozen genes that are immediately useful for protecting wheat from Ug99. Incorporating them into crops using conventional breeding techniques is a nine- to 12-year process that has only just begun. And that process will have to be repeated for each of the thousands of wheat varieties that is specially adapted to a particular region and climate.
"All the seed needs to change in the next few years," said Ronnie Coffman, a plant breeder who heads the Durable Rust Resistance in Wheat project. "It's really an enormous undertaking."
Ancient adversary
Farmers have been battling stem rust for as long as they have grown wheat. The fungus' ancestors infected wild grasses for millions of years before people began cultivating them for food, said Jorge Dubcovsky, professor of genetics and plant breeding at UC Davis.
"The pathogen keeps mutating and evolving," he said. "It's one of our biblical pests. This is not a small enemy."
When a spore lands on a green wheat plant, it forms a pustule that invades the outer layers of the stalk. The pustule hijacks the plant's water and nutrients and diverts them to produce new rust spores instead of grain. Within two weeks of an initial attack, there can be millions of pustules in a 2.5-acre patch of land.
Wheat plants that can recognize a specific chemical produced by stem rust can mount a defense against the fungus. But the rust is able to mutate, evade the plant's immune system and resume its spread.
Stem rust destroyed more than 20% of U.S. wheat crops several times between 1917 and 1935, and losses reached nearly 9% twice in the 1950s. The last major outbreak, in 1962, destroyed 5.2% of the U.S. crop, according to Peterson, who chairs the National Wheat Improvement Committee.
The fungus was kept at bay for years by breeders who slowly and methodically incorporated different combinations of six major stem rust resistance genes into various varieties of wheat. The breeders thought it unlikely that the rust could overcome clusters of those genes at the same time.
After several outbreak-free decades, it seemed that stem rust had been defeated for good. Scientists switched to other topics, and the hunt for new resistance genes practically slowed to a crawl.
A new strain of stem rust was identified on a wheat farm in Uganda in 1999.
"It didn't draw a lot of attention, frankly," said Marty Carson, research leader at the Cereal Disease Laboratory, part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. "There's very little wheat grown in Uganda."
East Africa is a natural hot spot for stem rust. Weather conditions allow farmers to grow wheat year-round, so rust spores can always find a susceptible host. Some of the wheat is grown as high as 7,000 feet above sea level, where intense solar radiation helps the fungus mutate.
The highlands are also home to barberry bushes, the only plant on which stem rust is known to reproduce through sexual recombination. That genetic shuffling provides a golden opportunity for the fungus to evolve into a deadly strain.
Within a few years, Ug99 -- named for the country and year it was identified -- had devastated farms in neighboring Kenya, where much of the wheat is grown on large-scale farms that have so far been able to absorb the blow. Then it moved north to Ethiopia, Sudan and Yemen, putting more small farms at risk. Those that can afford it are trying to make do with fungicides, but that's too cumbersome and expensive to be a long-term solution, Ward said.
To make matters worse, the fungus is becoming more virulent as it spreads. Scientists discovered a Ug99 variant in 2006 that can defeat Sr24, a resistance gene that protects Great Plains wheat.
Last year, another variant was found with immunity to Sr36, a gene that safeguards Eastern wheat.
Should those variants make their way to U.S. fields any time soon, scientists would be hard-pressed to protect American wheat crops.
A laborious task
Now the pressure is on to develop new wheat varieties that are impervious to Ug99. Hundreds of varieties will need to be upgraded in the U.S. alone.
"You can't just breed it into one or two major varieties and expect to solve the problem," Peterson said. "You have to reinvent this wheel at almost a local level."
The first step is to identify Ug99 resistance genes by finding wheat plants that can withstand the deadly fungus.
Roughly 16,000 wheat varieties and other plants have been tested in the cereal disease lab over the last four years. The tests were conducted between Dec. 1 and the end of February, when the Minnesota weather is so frigid that escaping spores would quickly perish, Carson said.
These and similar efforts at a research station in Kenya have turned up only a handful of promising resistance genes, which crop breeders such as Brett Carver at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater are trying to import into vulnerable strains of wheat.
Each year, Carver crosses hundreds of plants in a greenhouse to produce as many as 50,000 candidate strains. Over the next four years, those are winnowed down, and the most promising 2,000 are planted in the field.
Only the hardiest strains are replanted each year, until the 12-year process results in a single new variety with dozens of valuable traits, such as the ability to withstand drought and make fluffy bread.
The oldest of the plants Carver bred for Ug99 resistance are only 3 years old, but one of the strains has been planted in the field already in case the fungus hitches a quick ride to the U.S. on an airplane or in a shipping container.
"In the absence of stem rust, it would not be the highest-yielding wheat," he said. "In the presence of stem rust, it would be the only thing that would survive."
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I think between GM genes and new bio threats such as this, greenhouses are the future. Preferably hydroponic/solar greenhouses.
I think russia has a HUGE very succsefull one near Moscow.
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I had the idea the other day of using aluminum framing and vynal windows with the solar for pumps, lights and 5gl buckets for resevoirs. Mount it on a 8x8-16 ft utility trailer, and make it bi-level, you have a self sufficiant year round, pull behind garden for your truck or RV. maybe vent the exhaust in for extra CO2, lol!
Dwarf fruit trees in buckets, hanging vines like beans, peas, 'maters, etc. I dunno, my .o2
Just curious, Kurr, could you suggest how to build a device that could help redirect sunlight to areas where plants could be grown inside? The apartment where I am currently living unfortunately has an overhang on the back porch that shades the areas behind the windows facing east, and I don't have any good places to try to grow plants by the windows facing west, nor do I have a backyard (I live upstairs). If there were some way to sort of "catch" and redirect the sunlight to where I could set up plants, whether by some kind of periscopic reflection of sunlight--can plants grow using only reflected light??--that would be my best possibility where I'm living right now. The only real issue I could think of with something like this is having the sun's reflection concentrated like people do with magnifying glasses to set stuff on fire--wouldn't want that to happen. |
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I think between GM genes and new bio threats such as this, greenhouses are the future. Preferably hydroponic/solar greenhouses.
I think russia has a HUGE very succsefull one near Moscow.
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I had the idea the other day of using aluminum framing and vynal windows with the solar for pumps, lights and 5gl buckets for resevoirs. Mount it on a 8x8-16 ft utility trailer, and make it bi-level, you have a self sufficiant year round, pull behind garden for your truck or RV. maybe vent the exhaust in for extra CO2, lol!
Dwarf fruit trees in buckets, hanging vines like beans, peas, 'maters, etc. I dunno, my .o2
Just curious, Kurr, could you suggest how to build a device that could help redirect sunlight to areas where plants could be grown inside? The apartment where I am currently living unfortunately has an overhang on the back porch that shades the areas behind the windows facing east, and I don't have any good places to try to grow plants by the windows facing west, nor do I have a backyard (I live upstairs). If there were some way to sort of "catch" and redirect the sunlight to where I could set up plants, whether by some kind of periscopic reflection of sunlight--can plants grow using only reflected light??--that would be my best possibility where I'm living right now. The only real issue I could think of with something like this is having the sun's reflection concentrated like people do with magnifying glasses to set stuff on fire--wouldn't want that to happen.
SUN LIGHT is NOT NEEDED...
I haven't tried this yet,but maybe this will help you.
LED'S (light emitting diodes) for growing plants.They use a minimal amount of power.
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Growing plants underground.
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In some of the articles that I've read, say that if you put a metal plate out in the sun and connect a wire from them and into the ground of the pot or container that is in total darkness, that it same as growing in the sunlight.Also, some articles say you only have to connect a wire from a pipe in the ground connected to the pot with a wire to get the same effect.
The Earth is full of energy.
I have been messing around with making Earth batteries that could easily run the LED'S needed to grow plants and provide power for other things.
Like this guy.
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Lots to think about....
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Yes but it takes some skill to do it with only reflected light. I'd recommend going the easier route and getting a UV light. You can buy one of the ceiling kind pretty cheaply ($5 or so) at your local You must be logged in to see this link.. Suspend it about 4" above your plants (example, it's on two sawhorses, the plants are on the floor underneath it) and you're good to go.
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OK, let's think about some things...what can we do for ourselves, our families and our communities right now and continue to do them to help blunt the impact of something like this where we live? Community gardens? Seed co-ops? Farmers markets? Let's hash our some ideas and post some links that could help...
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I dehydrate a lot of vegetables specifically for this purpose. Whenever I'm cooking and I have some extra that's not enough to can, it goes in the dehydrator.
For example, last week I got some fresh green beans at a great price so I got what I thought would be enough for 3 pints (to can) and then some for dinner. Once I got home and got to chopping I realized I had enough for dinner and 2 1/2 pints. Since canning 1/2 a pint of green beans is silly, I just blanched them and tossed them in the dehydrator. About 3 hours later they were done and I tossed them in my "vegetable soup" jar.
I have 3 basic jars I have for dehydrated mixes, and then the jars that are all one vegetable (carrots, onions etc.). My mix jars are:
- Vegetable Soup/Beef Stew
- Roast
- Mexican/Spicy
The vegetable soup jar gets things like extra squash, green beans, zucchini, the occasional tomato slices, celery, smaller pieces of carrots etc. When it's full, it gets toss into some soup stock with a handful of rice and gets cooked up. This way those odds and ends don't go to waste.
The roast jar gets potato slices, larger carrot pieces, dried onions and dried garlic. When I get two quart jars full, out comes the crockpot and the roast. Toss it all in with some extra water and viola, roast! But wait, what's that, you have no roast? Never fear, just toss it in with a pot of rice and you've got a delicious meal with lots of nutrients, just add water!
The last jar gets corn, tomato, peppers (bell and spicy), onion and tomatillos. I'll toss it into chili or add it to a big pot of rice and beans with some chicken for a nice one dish meal.
Community:
I swap seeds with my neighbors and make it a point to try and show at least one person a season how easy gardening can be. It's as simple as sprouting an extra seedling and giving it to a neighbor in a pot. I've found that having one plant they love and can watch grow and having a harvest (however small!) that they can be proud of is usually enough to get someone to start a container garden. It may only be two tomato plants and some bell peppers, but that's a bit more know-how for them and a bit less food they have to depend on someone else for. It's helping people build skills disguised as an innocent plant.
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In some of the articles that I've read, say that if you put a metal plate out in the sun and connect a wire from them and into the ground of the pot or container that is in total darkness, that it same as growing in the sunlight.Also, some articles say you only have to connect a wire from a pipe in the ground connected to the pot with a wire to get the same effect.
I don't know if I can buy into that one. Plants need light for photosynthesis.
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OK, let's think about some things...what can we do for ourselves, our families and our communities right now and continue to do them to help blunt the impact of something like this where we live? Community gardens? Seed co-ops? Farmers markets? Let's hash our some ideas and post some links that could help...
That idea has merit. With a group of people involved who all have a vested interest in the success of the garden, the group tends to look out after said garden from thieves, wildlife and vandals.
It also helps equalize shortages certain members may have. Everyone can contribute what ever resources they have. Some can even supply nothing but labor, while others supply just the materials. Everyone benefits.
A few years ago Ford Motor Co. allowed the public access to a piece of vacant land they had in Inskter MI for just such a reason. When I was in there with a member I noticed he was the only one who was not Asian.
There is a high rise apartment not too far from me that has it's own little community garden for the residents. They are all Asain.
Maybe we can learn something from our Asain brothers and sisters...
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