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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 05/30/2009 :  22:16:29  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
When the grid goes down, computers are among the things that will be reduced to scrap value. Typewriters could make a major comeback at that point. What are some other things that might not seem obvious at first but that could be vital in the event of a semi-permanent electrical outage?


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Delawhere Jack
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  15:14:52  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
Clothes line and clothes pins, washboards and large buckets to use them in.

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Kurr
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  16:18:35  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Kerosene/Propane/Solar refrigerator, freezers, hot water heaters.

Meat Smoker - kind of a luxery item now for bbq's but bad meat kills and sickens, and invites disease, beter to preserve it.

Turkey Frier - canning and cooking, clothes washing, water sterilazation, disinfecting

Good books - no electric means no T.V. or radio for entertainment, but also means NO MORE GOOGLE!! You either know it or have it refferanced already.

Glass Jars - If the grid goes down semi permanetly watch these disappear quickly for home canning. As people re-learn how to can I'm sure they will become quite precious and common in pantries. You won't see bags of them like we see frozen dinners in the trash.








The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  16:19:54  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
Wow, do you guys expect the world to end? I don't think the U.S will become like the middle east, or Africa.

If anything, a good gravity water purifier would work wonders.

Trolling is an art.
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Kurr
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  16:45:10  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I'm in indiana we went like 10 days with no electric last year due to a storm. Where I am at the weather storms seem to be getting more and more vilolent. Ice storms to take out poles, lines, and tree's.

I live in a spot to where I have to go 6 miles or more to get to anyone selling anything. In one direction a 2 pump gas station,bait shop,combination and the other a small town general store. No electric can be bad especially the older folks who need medical equipment.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears


Edited by - Kurr on 05/31/2009 16:46:50
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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2009 :  17:03:59  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neckro

I don't think the U.S will become like the middle east, or Africa.

What if you're wrong, and you aren't prepared?

Great points, Kurr.


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--Latest article: Stocking up on spices to keep food preps lively

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Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html

Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.jesusfreak.com/rapture.asp

Edited by - Nickelless on 05/31/2009 17:05:58
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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  17:07:45  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
Yes, I forgot about that factor.

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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  18:33:01  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Covering windows with aluminum foil is a good way to deflect the sun and help keep the house cooler in the summer. I've been doing that for years in the rooms facing east and west--those rooms are about 20 degrees cooler than without the foil. It's saved me who knows how much in air-conditioning costs.


Visit my new preparedness site: Preparedness.cc/SurvivalPrep.net
--Latest article: Stocking up on spices to keep food preps lively

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Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html

Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.jesusfreak.com/rapture.asp

Edited by - Nickelless on 05/31/2009 18:33:39
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redneck
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  19:59:12  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

Covering windows with aluminum foil is a good way to deflect the sun and help keep the house cooler in the summer. I've been doing that for years in the rooms facing east and west--those rooms are about 20 degrees cooler than without the foil. It's saved me who knows how much in air-conditioning costs.



Bubble wrap - works winter or summer and allows light to enter...

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Hand cranked grain and meat grinder.

Wood stove (cooking and heating) and solar water heater.

Condoms...

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Kurr
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Posted - 05/31/2009 :  20:14:30  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I'm getting an antique cast iron tobacco shredder too. Hand Cranked.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2009 :  04:37:03  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Here are grain/coffee/bean grinders similar to one I bought on eBay a couple years ago:

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Visit my new preparedness site: Preparedness.cc/SurvivalPrep.net
--Latest article: Stocking up on spices to keep food preps lively

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Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html

Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.jesusfreak.com/rapture.asp
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slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 06/01/2009 :  06:09:23  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
How about those flashlights that you shake to build up a charge. The charge does not last long but no batteries required.

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NotABigDeal
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USA
3890 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2009 :  06:25:01  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by slickeast

How about those flashlights that you shake to build up a charge. The charge does not last long but no batteries required.


I've never seen one of those that is worth a damn. True they use no batteries, but they only shoot a dim light for a little while. But if you have no batteries....

Deal

Live free or die.
Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams
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Cody8404
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USA
602 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2009 :  13:29:34  Show Profile Send Cody8404 a Private Message
Nothing like a need to find out what you need. Last month I was in my car, you know always ready. Found I lost the jumper cables and electric tape. Really the only two things I neede badly.

Charcol and good dutch oven would be a good idea.

Awake, O kings of the earth! Come ye, O, come ye, with your gold and your silver, to the help of my people, to the house of the daughters of Zion, to the help of the people of the God of this Land even Jesus Christ.
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silverhalide
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Posted - 06/03/2009 :  21:22:32  Show Profile Send silverhalide a Private Message
outdoor solar lights so you can take in at night.

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2009 :  02:52:06  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Check out the section labeled "TEOTWAWKI Weekend Experiment" at the bottom of the first post in this thread. This would be a great way to see how each of us would respond when the grid goes down before it actually does:

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Visit my new preparedness site: Preparedness.cc/SurvivalPrep.net
--Latest article: Stocking up on spices to keep food preps lively

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Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html

Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.jesusfreak.com/rapture.asp
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theo
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USA
588 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2009 :  15:07:39  Show Profile Send theo a Private Message
I have couple hand crank flash lights. One is also a radio. I think you can get them at Wal-mart or Kmart.
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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



2906 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2009 :  15:15:24  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
AC/DC transformer, lets me use my 12v DC car plug to charge and use 120vac appliances. Basicly turns your cig lighter into a wal recepticle.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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chant1970
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  10:53:21  Show Profile Send chant1970 a Private Message
"AC/DC transformer, lets me use my 12v DC car plug to charge and use 120vac appliances. Basicly turns your cig lighter into a wal recepticle."

Could you run an average refrigerator/freezer or microwave off of this?
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1680 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  17:51:42  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by chant1970

"AC/DC transformer, lets me use my 12v DC car plug to charge and use 120vac appliances. Basicly turns your cig lighter into a wal recepticle."

Could you run an average refrigerator/freezer or microwave off of this?



It would be cumbersome, but yes.

Watts/Volts = Amps
Volts x Amps = Watts

Typical car battery, 12v 500Amps. Typical microwave 120V 1200W.
You can do the math here:

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The problem would be in whether the charging system would keep up with the load. Batteries are rated according to CCA, cold cranking amps, which is their peak output potential for a short period. Sustained load capacity is dependent on the output of the alternator, which runs from as little as 12V - 60A on some little cars, to maybe as high as 120A (or more?) on trucks or upscale cars. Even with that limitation, yes, you should be able to run a fridge or nukro-waver off an inverter, but probably nothing else at the same time.


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Kurr
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  19:25:14  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Some people have an extra alternator installed, for high watt radio systems, should work for this as well.

Also speaking of alternators, you can mod one, and run cables off it, to have an onboard welder. Also you can use the air conditioning compressor as an... air compressor, lol.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Delawhere Jack
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USA
1680 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  22:21:28  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kurr

Some people have an extra alternator installed, for high watt radio systems, should work for this as well.





Yeah, who ever thought those Boom-Cars would ever come in handy?

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson

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caridad
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2009 :  11:40:28  Show Profile Send caridad a Private Message
i remember our grid going down almost daily two summers in a row here in california. deregulation left a BIG HOLE for corporations to get greedy. those who made the electricity were selling it at outrageous prices to people supplying it. this eventually made the news and legislature. this is what led grey davis to being ousted in his 2nd term as governor.

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