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Canadian_Nickle
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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  21:40:20  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
This piece pushes the horizon of my north american currency collection back a few centuries. To whit:

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This is a copper hoe, a currency issued by the aztec empire (and a canadian $1 bill for size reference). Not sure if this counts as a coin or a bill. The material (hand fired/hammered copper) is very much coin, but the dimensions are much closer to a bill. I can see having a stack of these like a stack of bills. The copper is very thin - the whole thing weighs little more than 2 or 3 pennies, and most of that is corrosion.

Anyway, I thought some of the other copper fans here would enjoy a look at this neat artifact.




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Posted - 04/24/2007 :  21:57:15  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
That's the coolest thing I've seen in a long time!
At first, I failed to scroll sideways, so I missed the entire point of the photo.

I think the Chinese "cash" coin is the best all around format.
I like the Sqware hole and the fact that they were strung into "necklaces" of one hundred coins which were traded as "100 lots" and not broken up unless no one had correct change.

The big flat thing you showed us, is instructive in that we can see that coins can take many formats.

Thanks!

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Posted - 05/02/2007 :  22:53:26  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
In Iran they used a coiled wire and called it a "larin". this ended up being transferred linguistically into the coin denomination of the Maldives as 'lari', 100 of which make a Rufiyaa.

It isn't really all that amazing though since all kind sof things ahve been used as coinage over the centuries..
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pencilvanian
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Posted - 05/03/2007 :  17:49:17  Show Profile Send pencilvanian a Private Message
Thanks for the interesting fact Pingu and welcome to the forum.

I should have chosen "Cut-n-Paste" as a forum name, since that is what I do, mostly.
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Canadian_Nickle
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Posted - 05/03/2007 :  21:17:07  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Some other cool aztec stuff:

Although the Aztec used copper for money and decoration, they never really developed a broneze-age technology, in the classical sense. In fact, their prolific bloody orgy of an empire (which murdered more people than the nazis, many times over) was built on bludgeoning weapons and blades chipped from obsidian, like these, which were used for make a heavy cut between the ribs before removing the heart by hand.






As you can imagine, these pieces of rock are far from the ideal tool with which to attemt to dislocate a major rib (trust me, I'm a butcher) as they're short, delicate and really not very sharp unless they're being used like little saws. The determination required to cut somebody open like this could only be expected of followers of, you guessed it, a death cult. Specifically, the cult of Mictlantecutli, the Aztec god of death. Blood and hearts were reaped fresh daily for Mictlantecutli's pleasure. Mictlantecutli priests would wear neclace pendants with the visiage of their diety:







Once the heart was removed, an icon, representing death personified, would be bathed in the "pure" blood flowinbg directly out of the severed heart. This one is pretty heavy, probably about 12 pounds, carved out of solid basalt;








And that's about it for my own collection of Aztec artifacts. The Icon has a really spooky aspect to it, as you can imagine. There are some interesting dovetales between apocalyptic christianity and the Mictlantecutli cult - both identify the coming of death peronified as the sign of the end and both consider death seperate and above the other apocalypse angels (famine, pestilence, etc). Anyway, hope you all enjoyed the history lesson. Remember, as William Burroughs used to say, "America is not a new land. It is old, old and evil."


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Posted - 05/04/2007 :  00:37:07  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
wow

History lesson indeed!

For all my complaints about the current state of affairs in the USA under the current death cult of devil worshiping hypocrits in the white house, I am thankful to live in the USA in the 21st century.

There may be better times and better places than the here and now, but there absolutely are worse ones.

My thanks go out to Ben Franklin, John Adams, and their cohorts.
If we could remain true to their ideals, we could prevent ourselves from becoming a militaristic death cult that invades other countries to steal their oil.
But, of course, in order to do that, we'd have to understand what their ideals were.
I have a lot of homework to do.

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