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Nickelless
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jadedragon
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 02:21:27
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| Railways take trespassing pretty seriously because there are significant safety/liability issues faced by the railways. Many of the big railways have thier own police forces (including in CN and CP in Canada) that spend a lot of time on the tresspassing issue. In Canada these railway police have powers similar to the RCMP or City Police on railway property and far more powers then private security does. I can't imagine why it would be legal (or safe) to collect scrap on or around railways. |
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 06:24:47
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It's a no-no. Your friend is stealing and trespassing. Steer clear, hehe.
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Kurr
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AGgressive Metal
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 Posted - 05/13/2009 : 10:51:50
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to take even so much as a railroad spike from an active train line is considered "domestic terrism". Thanks Patriot Act!
This is no joke! I was walking down a railroad track one day just to get some fresh air and see the railyard and some dude in a white truck pulls up and says that if I don't make a Bee-line off the property he is calling Homeland Security. WTF. |
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slickeast
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:16:46
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| hummm interesting info. The train tracks run directly behind my house, Property line is about 20 feet from center of the tracks. I think that I cut part of their grass when I cut mine. |
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Nickelless
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slickeast
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:40:49
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Originally posted by Nickelless
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Originally posted by Kurr
to take even so much as a railroad spike from an active train line is considered "domestic terrism". Thanks Patriot Act!
Dude was talking about scrap that falls off of train cars, not taking spikes or anything else belonging to the railroad. But yeah, point taken about trespassing. I raised an eyebrow when he mentioned scrapping along rail lines.
I don't think it matters why or what you are doing. You are on their property and they dont't want you there.
People have walked the tracks since there was a railroad. I have done it many times...more when I was young and didn't have a car.
9/11 changed many things in this country that were "accepted" even though they were wrong. How many of us have went 4 wheeling in the powerline right of ways. We were tresspassing but no one bothered us.
That might be a different story if we tried that now. |
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natsb88
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 17:23:04
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RailRoad police have really increased patrols and penalties since 9/11. There have been many stories of railfans detained and questioned for taking photos, even in areas that have been popular photogenic spots for decades. Amtrak police seem to be particularly aggressive due to their passenger operations (there have been numerous stories of detaining people who were on public property for taking photographs of trains, and confiscating cameras and memory cards).
If you're on the railroad right-of-way, you are trespassing. If you are picking things up from the railroad right-of-way, no matter what it is, you are stealing. If local, state, or railroad police see you, there is no gray area. The trespassing factor is something I respect. There are large quantities of very nasty chemicals in many relatively unsecured tank cars. The assault on photography, however, seems ridiculous.
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 18:34:30
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Interesting discussion. My family owns some abandoned railroad and there are 2-3 50 foot sections of 100 gauge rail left. Would a scrap yard take this if you could prove ownership??
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snappy
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Posted - 05/14/2009 : 10:02:36
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| when I was younger my grandfather purchaced a spur that went to an abandond mine (about 3 miles long) and we spent the summer pulling it up he used the rails to make cattle guards and sold them.. It was a lot of heavy work.. spikes, plates,rails heck all of it get heavy. spikes and plates they were sold to scrap yard along with the end bits of rails (parts to short to fit on guards). he had no problems selling them. but that was in 81-82 |
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Gumby_5
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Posted - 05/16/2009 : 00:21:29
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| remember when I as younger early 80s when you could grab all the old spikes you wanted from the rail tracks. They used to just pull them replace them and leave them. Today they use machinary for all that and everything is pulled dropped on convayor belt and dropped in the scrap trailer. Hard to find anything laying around the tracks these days. Expecially after last years high prices. |
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misteroman
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Posted - 05/17/2009 : 11:53:28
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| I remember back in the day when I was like 12 or so walking along the tracks and looking for loose spikes.When ya found one it was like finding a barber half is today! |
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simplicitycounts
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Posted - 05/19/2009 : 12:02:46
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| This reminds me of the movie October Sky, if you haven't seen it, you should watch it. |
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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 05/21/2009 : 14:18:55
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| Cringe! I used to frequent railroad tracks to flatten Lincoln cents on the rails. Also, we had partying places along the tracks complete with a nice raging fire at times. Funny how we did not really fear the police showing up. The police would show up when neighbors called to complain. |
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