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Bart
Penny Pincher Member
Canada
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 Posted - 04/10/2009 : 19:25:49
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Hey - What is the easiest way to seperate copper from the nickel in the US nickels? Or should I be asking whats the cheapest method to do this. They are or will be worth more seperated right? Any ideas on how its done?
75% copper & 25% nickel = Cu3Ni??
How are they attached molecule to molecule? Or is it a big chain molecule like the gasoline or just 3 Cu of every Ni????
Has anybody done this or tried it?
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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2009 : 19:51:37
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| I have not done this but would like to see how it is done as well, so when it becomes available to do in the US i will know |
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highroller4321
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2009 : 20:09:21
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| I think it is worth mentioning that it is currently illegal to melt U.S nickels in the U.S |
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MatLock
Penny Pincher Member
USA
122 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2009 : 16:09:28
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| It must be possible. Try reading up on mining techniques, such as electrolysis and chemistry. |
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Kurr
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Posted - 04/11/2009 : 17:19:31
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| You would need to dissolve them, then drop them one by one from the solution. Needs acid. Also probably current. Electro-chemistry. Look at refining techniques such as goldrefiningforum.com problem is copper sponge from the acid drop. Basicly I have heard that the process is so "dirty" and exspensive to do to "clean" standards, that this type material goes to overseas. |
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slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 : 17:41:24
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HR, the person asking is in canada. so he can melt the US coins all he wants.
I don't try to figure out how to melt anything. I want to be more of a 'supplier' of metals. I just hoard the materials. |
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Bart
Penny Pincher Member
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2009 : 18:57:22
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Hi Matlock & Kurr -
I agree with both of you that electrolisis-chemistry is required to seperate the 2 metals. I've been away from the classroom for too many years. It was one of my favourites & best class in high school.
I'm thinking that the coins should be in an agitated acid bath to dissolve the metals & then run some DC voltage to a copper anode through an acid - probably sulfuric - to a pure nickel cathode or vice versa. Something along those lines.
Maybe I should talk to the chemist at a plating shop. Thanks for confirming my thoughts & getting me headed in the right direction!
This will be another spare time project. It might be a while before I get back to you about this. The Misses has many warm weather projects for me.
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fasTTcar
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
573 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2009 : 08:58:57
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The question is why would you want to?
CuNi is sold as an industrial commodity. Many applications use cupronickel in a 70:30 or 80:20 mix. US nickels are already pre mixed. |
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goodcents
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 19:58:56
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Posted - 04/26/2009 : 21:45:05
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| Can i sold my colombian coins with a CuNiAl composition of 92:6:2 mix? Or these coins are valueless (except its nominal value, of course...) Thanx. |
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Cupronickel
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 : 22:34:58
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Originally posted by fasTTcar
The question is why would you want to?
CuNi is sold as an industrial commodity. Many applications use cupronickel in a 70:30 or 80:20 mix. US nickels are already pre mixed.
As 70/30 is a standard alloy, it wouldn't take much balancing in the furnace when melting the US 75/25 composition, to get to a 70/30. That is, if melting current US coinage was legal! Any type of chemical, or electrochemical processing is going to be a huge loser and create a big mess. |
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biglouddrunk
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 08/10/2009 : 00:08:15
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| Chromic Acid CrO3 (aq) will disolve most metals, but not Nickel. I sure there is a better way Hex-chrome is a nasty chemical. |
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 08/10/2009 : 03:37:26
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| The RCM sorts and sells CuNi by the barrel for industrial use. Works for them so there must be a market. |
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biglouddrunk
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 08/12/2009 : 00:25:38
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| One can dissolve and electroplate copper in a cyanide bath. There always is an easy way to separate two metals. The question one needs to ask is how much energy one needs to use to separate two metals. It's an easy thing for a factory to do, but if somebody here wants to make bricks it would be tough. |
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