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Canadian_Nickle
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 Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:03:57
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Silver Morhpologies thread. Someone a while ago suggested a silver morphologies thread, so here we go:
Silver Morphologies 1:
Chainz.
I like silver chainz, because you can get a nice fat one for very little cost over spot and they go up in price with the silver market. Plus they look totally thug. Chicks will rub up against you and finger yr chainz and say "I like that." Seriously, even if your ugly. Chainz are a godsend to guys like me, who are metal geeks and want to let the ladies know it.
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:06:19
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Silver Morphologies 2:
Coinz.
Scarp coinage from back when money had real value is a nice way to hoard silver, because it also has historical a numismatic interest qualities. I collect mostly old Canadian silver coinz.
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Edited by - Canadian_Nickle on 03/27/2007 23:25:01 |
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:09:17
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Silver Morphologies 3:
Roundz.
Roundz are like coins but they are struck of pure silver by the mints for sale as bullion, and not intended for regular circulation. If you buy 20 American roundz, they give you this neat holder. Canadian roundz are better though, because they are .9999 pure, while US roundz are only .999
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Edited by - Canadian_Nickle on 03/27/2007 23:11:01 |
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:12:06
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Silver Morphologies 4:
Dollarz.
Dollarz in Canada up until 1967 each cointain .6 Oz of silver.
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Edited by - Canadian_Nickle on 03/27/2007 23:12:50 |
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:14:28
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Silver Morphologies 5:
Markz.
Old German 5 mark coins from just before WWII are .900 silver. Some of them also have swastikas, which makes them sell for more on eBay.
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Canadian_Nickle
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Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:16:33
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Silver Morphologies 6:
Barz.
Barz are litte chunks of .999 silver of a given weight, usually 1 or 5 ouncez. You can buy them from yr bank.
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Canadian_Nickle
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:19:01
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Silver Morphologies 7:
Poundz.
The US also mitns some 1-pound coinz. Why they do this I don't know. They are very impractical in a number of differnt ways. Well done, USA!
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Canadian_Nickle
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Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:21:25
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Silver Morphologies 8:
Ingotz.
Ingotz are like big ass barz. They tend to be poured and cast, while barz are more likely to be cut and stamped. I dunno. I suppose this 10oz piece is really a bar, and the 10oz piece in the Barz image is really an ingot. Whatever.
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 23:24:00
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Silver Morphologies 9:
Fakez.
There is fake silver out there. If a deal seems too good to be true, it probably is. Like when I was in Chinatown and bought these 5 "silver" 1 oz coins for $5. (Even at fake, you can't beat that price ;) )
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Ridewithme38
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2007 : 00:45:36
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Hey how do you know if there fakes? I think i have that same exact coin as the scanned one (The flying liberty one)
How can i tell if its fake...odds are it is...i bought it on Ebay for close to Spot at the time($10 spot 11.50 or something like that)...Did i get ripped off?
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
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Posted - 03/28/2007 : 01:04:58
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I could tell they were fakes because they were more like zink (green powdering) than silver (toning) and because they were forsale for $1 each. Also, the standing liberty design was not used in 1904.
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Posted - 03/28/2007 : 10:28:50
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I think Silver is probably the best investment.
Unfortunately, Silver looks just like a lot of other "white" metals.
Unfortunately, Silver is easy to fake.
Platinum and Pladium are probably more at risk from fakery, though simply because they are more precious.
My Heuristic of fakery is this:
If the round or bar is trying to pretend to be something that is isn't then they are busted at least on the level of forgery, if not metal content.
For example, if you saw a can of soda that looked A LOT like a can of coke-a-cola, but wasn't, you would know that the maker of that label was trying to pass off as the real thing. Just knowing that they are even trying to fake anything at all is enough to pass on their product. They have already trashed their reputation by looking fake.
I have mostly .999 Silver rounds, but I also have some
.90 "coin Silver" and even a few peices of
.925 "Sterling Silver" These are Israeli by the way.
Interestingly, the price of a .90 Dollar 1878-1928 is the same as an ounce of .999.
They tend to trade one for one.
The the Morgan and Peace dollars have only 24.057 grams of silver in them.
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While the Silver Rounds have 31.0723733232 grams of silver in them.
31.1034768 x .999 = 31.0723733232
24.057 / 31.0723733232 = 0.774224734936
So a Morgan or Peace Dollar contains 77.4% as much silver as a silver round, but trades one to one.
This premium represents the law.
If you counterfeit dollars, the law will come down on you, if you counterfeit rounds, what will happen? maybe a civil suit? maybe nothing.
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psi
Penny Collector Member
Canada
399 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2007 : 17:03:56
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Passing fake rounds off as silver would be fraud, still a serious charge... I guess actually making them might not be,
depending on how you represented them to buyers. Just printing "X oz .999 fine silver" on something might be enough
to say you're representing it as that, even if you tried to cover your ass by referring to it as a "replica" or something. |
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
938 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2007 : 17:58:19
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I have seen "novelty" 1 kilo bars of lead that are gold plated and stamped as 1 kilo gold bars. They are sold with a brochure that explains that they are a "novelty" item.
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Posted - 03/29/2007 : 00:01:52
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I own two "fake" gold coins.
They look as similar to a buffalo gold ounce as possible, except that they say the word "specimin" on them.
They are GOLD PLATED.
I paid less than $20 for both of them. (Less than $10 each)
I can imagine a scenario in which one might have twenty real gold coins and five fakes and pass them off as 25 reals.
I do NOT advocate doing so. It would be immoral and illegal.
However, I can imagine panicked situations in which I might very well accept mis-payment.
On the one hand I am comfortable enough to say that I am extremely unlikely to screw someone in that way, largely because I have inherited money.
On the other hand, I could probably live through an event in which someone screwed me in this way.
I would like to be a moral character. If I really cared about fairness, I would give all this inherited money to charity.
Passing off fakes as real is a legal problem in today's society.
In a post SHTF society it may only be a moral problem.
In a post SHTF society, the police, or vigil-ante community may not have what it takes to go after moral ambiguity.
They may be pre-occupied with violent crime and rioting.
Let us all hope (and pray for those so inclined) that the S--- doesn't hit the fan.
Peace!
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Metalophile
Penny Collector Member
USA
320 Posts |
Posted - 03/30/2007 : 14:35:43
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Going back to fake silver: I've never seen one of these fake silver pieces. Do they ring like real silver? Real silver has a distinctive ring that I can identify from across a large, crowded room.
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Ridewithme38
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2007 : 17:25:27
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thats why i'm not sure about the silver round i have that may be fake...it rings exactly the same as the 1 ounce silver bar i have when flipped...maybe its my ears? but probly not i'm still young (26)
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RUNNING TOTAL:
APROXIMATELY..i forgot to count a box!!
2824 Copper
68 wheat
25 canadian
1 Guatemala coin?(1979)What is this made of?
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 03/30/2007 : 17:39:12
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I bought some junk imitation silver coins three for $2.00
They looked neat so I bought them as fantasy coins.
One test to see if what you have is silver or not, use a magnet.
The magnet picked up the fantasy coins. I just wonder if they are steel or nickel?
Another test, file the edge so there is a notch. Apply a little silver test kit solution to the nick. If it is silver, it turns red, if not, it stays the same color.
I have heard adding a little sulphur to a silver coin will cause it to tarnish, though I have never tried it myself, and this test is best done outside (sulphur smells like rotten eggs.)
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Canadian_Nickle
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Canada
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Posted - 03/30/2007 : 19:47:04
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No, my fakez don't "ring" ile real silver. More of a "clunk"
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