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Bart
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Canada
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Posted - 03/01/2009 :  10:41:06  Show Profile Send Bart a Private Message

Hi Everyone -

I have taken apart a few electronic control panels from old houses or businesses. You knew the 200 amp panels that use circuit breakers. Some of the bars are copper. But there are a few that are copper inside & coated with a white metal. Would that white metal be silver? It does work better as a conducter than copper.

What do you think this is??

Best regards, Bart

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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2009 :  13:35:31  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
if the house is over 100 years old i wouldnt doubt that it is silver but i would recommend taking it to a scrap yard and have it tested. is it white or silver looking? could be just pvc coated.

Edited by - RyanAKL on 03/02/2009 13:37:14
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Cody8404
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2009 :  16:11:55  Show Profile Send Cody8404 a Private Message
Silver is a better conductor than copper, but copper is less expensive.

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Kurr
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Posted - 03/02/2009 :  16:57:36  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Put some nitric acid on it and sissolve a little, then drop some salt in the solution, if a white substance forms id say that would be silver chloride indicating silver.


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gatzdon
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Posted - 03/02/2009 :  17:35:49  Show Profile Send gatzdon a Private Message
Could be aluminum.
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Bart
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Canada
120 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2009 :  18:59:44  Show Profile Send Bart a Private Message
Hi -

Thanks for your replies. I have found the same metal inside old circuit breakers as well. I don't think that they are 100 year old. The coating does look more silver than aluminium like.

Can I get a jewelry store to very its silver. The only acid around here is sulfuric from car batteries or just vinegar & citric acids. If they can test it I will let you know what it is.

Best regards, Bart

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RyanAKL
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USA
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  10:03:19  Show Profile  Send RyanAKL an AOL message Send RyanAKL a Private Message
i think your best bet is to go to call around to your local scrap yards to see if they have a metal analyzer tester, all they do is ruff up the surface with sand paper and and put the analyzer to the surface and it will tell you what metal it is, and they usally dont charge you anything.
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oober
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USA
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Posted - 03/03/2009 :  20:35:10  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
Well, I haven never seen aluminum plated on copper, so its probably silver, but the copper will be worth more then the plating on these IMO. The plating is probably measured in microns.
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snappy
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USA
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Posted - 03/04/2009 :  22:02:47  Show Profile Send snappy a Private Message
I found this a long time ago and was told that when they smelted the copper they did not get it as pure as we do today and over time the copper gets used up and the impurties remain. leaving the silver coating. It will be brittle and break easy. The coating is a mixture of what ever was in the ore when they smelted it.. AG, AU, AL, PB you name it if it was in the ore it is in the wire.

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Edited by - snappy on 03/04/2009 22:04:57
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Computer Jones
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USA
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Posted - 03/04/2009 :  22:31:39  Show Profile Send Computer Jones a Private Message
Here's hoping it is Ag!
I worked as an industrial electrician for several years. I was responsible for (among other things) sorting and scrapping unusable parts from lots obtained at auction. Silver coated contacts in 440 (and higher) AC voltage motor starters and electronic switches were commonly used because they caused less arcing while making contact. This was '50's to late '70's era equipment.
I never saw Ag plated buss bars, but I guess they could exist.
I've got several coffee cans of the heavier plated Ag starter "teeth".

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