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novillero
Penny Sorter Member


USA
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  08:38:44  Show Profile Send novillero a Private Message
Has anyone read about the difficulty of getting the silver out of 35% and 40% coins? I have seen this written on forums, but never read an article on it.

If this is true, are collecting these 35-40% silvers worth it?

Be interested to hear the feed back since I know a lot of people on here coin roll hunt for halves.

ME CO
Penny Pincher Member

USA
199 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  08:47:51  Show Profile Send ME CO a Private Message
I'll pay shipping and .50 for every one ya can scrounge up. HH Mark

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goodcents
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
504 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  08:51:31  Show Profile  Send goodcents an AOL message Send goodcents a Private Message
well worth your while. One or two may not make a huge deal but multiple rolls are well worth the time.

Joe
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slickeast
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USA
2533 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  09:10:35  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
check out APMEX.com and check the prices on 40% junk silver bags, you be the judge. If you don't want them i'll take em.

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horgad
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USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  09:22:54  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
Don't worry about the difficulty of refining them. They are priced as silver coins and mostly not refined, but rather sold as silver coins. Any premium/discount that they carry because they are 40% vs 90% is already priced in.

For example, the current buy price on bulk 40% half dollars is Spot + 69 cents and the current sell price is spot + 25 cents. If silver goes up 10%, your 40% coin buy and sell prices just went up 10% assuming that demand stays about the same. Demand and other factors like refining difficulty is already priced into the premiums.

Premiums and buy/sell spreads change with demand, but the spot price portion of the price mirrors silver exactly no matter if you buy 90%, 40%, or 100%. So ideally buy a silver item when both silver and demand for the specific item are about to increase. Or for simplicity sake buy the lower premium items and diversify to reduce your risk of gettin burned if demand drops for a specific silver item.

Hope that helps....
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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  11:07:20  Show Profile Send JerrySpringer a Private Message
Speaking of silver, I see SLV is at 11.75 right now.
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goodcents
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
504 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  12:04:42  Show Profile  Send goodcents an AOL message Send goodcents a Private Message
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Cody8404
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USA
602 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  12:45:50  Show Profile Send Cody8404 a Private Message
I have a few around.

The reason I like them is to use them when the first wave of inflation and price controls hit. When the dollar starts dropping, but the government tells the stores you can not raise the prices.

My plan is to use these 40% coins to get what is needed. Yes, they have some silver, and they will also fill peoples need for using the coins they have always used.

They are also silver and enough people know the silver content of them they can be traded and used as needed.

I see them as cheap silver.

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wagsthadog
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USA
565 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  12:46:04  Show Profile Send wagsthadog a Private Message
Hi there-

When I come across significant amounts of 40% or war nicks I sell them, and it's not my first choice, but BELIEVE ME, ANYTHING with silver in it is well worth your time.

wags

Only when they CAN'T have it, ......THEN they'll want it.

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scooter
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240 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  12:57:14  Show Profile Send scooter a Private Message
i bought 33 kennedys 40% not to long ago. i bought them for the silver content. I got them for a steal. About 9 of them were Au. I recently listed the 9 au ones on ebay and they sold for 47.00 . I will buy again if i find a deal on Au coins. I was hesitant but after this experience i will keep my mind open to the 40%ers.
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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  13:08:23  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Sad to say, but 35% silver war nickels are a real pain for the refiners due to their alloy. As I understand it, 40% halves aren't at all. Remember, this comes form the nickel guy.

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CoinHunter53562
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  14:29:17  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
Sure they are worth it if you cant get any other form of silver for some reason, or if you get them from half hunting and paid face value plus time. :)

My hobby: collecting real money 1 copper cent or nickel at a time.

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Computer Jones
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USA
1112 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  14:34:56  Show Profile Send Computer Jones a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by novillero


If this is true, are collecting these 35-40% silvers worth it?





No, not worth it, no way!
Never save any 40% silver coin.
Don't beleive the prices you see for 40% coinage.
The more you leave for me to find the better.
;)

There's profit if you melt things!!
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n/a
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  14:35:21  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
The first deal I did here was for a bunch of 40% halves. It put a hefty sum in my pocket. They are definitely worth it, whether buying or selling.
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keys
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383 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  19:49:11  Show Profile Send keys a Private Message
You must be logged in to see this link.

These guys seem interested in refining 40% halves.

If they can do it, and do it for a profit, I suspect other refiners can too.
The thing to keep in mind is this-
If you refine 40% coins yourself you will have problems,
if you let the professionals refine 40% coins for you they have the problems, not you, but since they are the experts on refining they will know how to get the job done with few if any problems.

I change with the times-
but like silver coins found in your change
I stay the same.
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keys
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383 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  20:01:26  Show Profile Send keys a Private Message
Concerning war nickels-

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"Arch Enterprises can refine the silver from all types of silver coins including minted coins. Please contact us for a free estimate of your coin collection’s silver value."

Looks like they will take them for refining, but I would suspect that they would charge a fee since War nickels are lower in silver than most other silver coins.

It is nice to know there is a buyer for 35% silver coins, but War Nickels, like junk silver, have a greater value as coins to be traded for their silver content than for their melt value.

One can always sell junk silver/war nickels to someone else and the buyer will know the purity of silver they are buying, no doubt about it.

I change with the times-
but like silver coins found in your change
I stay the same.
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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  21:05:54  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by CoinHunter53562

Sure they are worth it if you cant get any other form of silver for some reason, or if you get them from half hunting and paid face value plus time. :)



They sure are worth sorting for and obtaining at face value. But when someone pays full spot for 35% war nickel's silver value that's not a great deal in my opinion.

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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  21:45:57  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I think hoardng 40% doesn't make sense. I'm all for finding them by sorting but I immediately sell them and use the profits to get more .999 bullion or at the lowest 90%

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oober
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  22:06:37  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
Hoarding 40's is ok. The ratio of 40 value to 90 value to 999 value will never change, so whether you sell now or later you will get the same amount.
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fb101
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USA
2856 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  22:16:36  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
I'll give $3.50 for an ounce of silver anyday in any form.
That include 40% and war nickels.
When the day comes, there will be a use for them because silver change for that 90% will be just as hard to come by.
If I'm paying in silver I won't be taking cupronickel in change.

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Dan52
Penny Collector Member



USA
422 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  14:25:31  Show Profile Send Dan52 a Private Message
I quit searching for war nickels. I wasn't finding but one every three boxes of nickels. I am still in the hunt for 40% halves. I just bought a $430.00 bag of halves from a local bank. The results:

40% halves - 134
90% halves - 2

In terms of silver coins to cupronickel coins, this is probably the best score I have made. I will admit to a little disappointment because of the small amount of 90% halves, but I'm happy with the large number of 40% halves. One of them was a 1970s.
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ME CO
Penny Pincher Member

USA
199 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  17:31:58  Show Profile Send ME CO a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dan52


In terms of silver coins to cupronickel coins, this is probably the best score I have made. I will admit to a little disappointment because of the small amount of 90% halves, but I'm happy with the large number of 40% halves. One of them was a 1970s.


Congrats on the '70S. I have found 9 '70D's and have yet to fill the '70S hole in my Dansco. HH Mark

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Computer Jones
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USA
1112 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  23:17:58  Show Profile Send Computer Jones a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ME CO

quote:
Originally posted by Dan52


In terms of silver coins to cupronickel coins, this is probably the best score I have made. I will admit to a little disappointment because of the small amount of 90% halves, but I'm happy with the large number of 40% halves. One of them was a 1970s.


Congrats on the '70S. I have found 9 '70D's and have yet to fill the '70S hole in my Dansco. HH Mark



Yes, they are still out there waiting for me!
Thanks for these two posts, I'm sure I'll find those elusive '70's now.
All I have to do is sort more faster.
Unless either of you would care to trade for a Half you might want,
Walkers, Bens, proof Kennedys????

There's profit if you melt things!!
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