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Nickelless
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 06:54:18
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I just found this on my laptop:
quote: Originally posted by Realcent I did not write this list. It has been posted on many different survivalist type websites. Do you think it is fairly accurate?
The first 100 items to disappear in an emergency, disaster, WTSHTF type situation:
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & roosterroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens
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Edited by - Nickelless on 12/14/2008 04:50:27 |
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wagsthadog
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 11:05:45
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Hi there-
goats? : D
wags |
Only when they CAN'T have it, ......THEN they'll want it.
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 11:20:59
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quote: Originally posted by wagsthadog
Hi there-
goats? : D
wags
Goats are a great WTSHTF item. Only takes a small yard to support 1 or 2 and you get enough milk and cheese for a small family. It wouldn't take much demand to make them impossible to find...there are just so few to begin with.
I have though about getting one myself, but is too much of work having to milk them everyday or maybe even twice a day. Of course, if I lose my job and grocery prices shoot up and/or shelves became bare, I will change my mind very quickly about them being too much work...hopefully before they dissapear.
But still it is a funny thought about everybody running out in a panic to try and buy a goat and some chickens... :)
Pigs too should be on that list. A pig can be used to turn food scraps into "free" meat. For example, say you have some extra goat's milk or extra eggs that you can't use before they will go bad....enter the pig to the rescue. |
Edited by - horgad on 12/10/2008 11:21:41 |
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 17:22:50
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Portable toilets? At first maybe, until people loose their modesty. |
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 17:51:57
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quote: Originally posted by Delawhere Jack
Portable toilets? At first maybe, until people loose their modesty.
A plastic five gallon bucket and a plastic garbage bag make very good toilets. The heavy Husky brand Home Depot sells work best, but any will work.
Portable, compact and light weight. The buckets aren't uncomfortable to sit on without a seat as one would expect...
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TenBears
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 18:30:51
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When the goats and chickens are all gone, I'm not sure anyone still wants to be around. |
"Rich," the Old Man said dreamily, "is not baying after what you can't have. Rich is having the time to do what you want to do. Rich is a little whiskey to drink and some food to eat and a roof over your head and a fish pole and a boat and a gun and a dollar for a box of shells. Rich is not owing any money to anybody, and not spending what you haven't got." Robert Ruark
there are too wild Indians... there are too wild Indians... there are too wild Indians...-----still taunted
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 : 19:00:20
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quote: Originally posted by Bluegill
quote: Originally posted by Delawhere Jack
Portable toilets? At first maybe, until people loose their modesty.
A plastic five gallon bucket and a plastic garbage bag make very good toilets. The heavy Husky brand Home Depot sells work best, but any will work.
Portable, compact and light weight. The buckets aren't uncomfortable to sit on without a seat as one would expect...
Somethings just shouldn't be shared with others, TMI brother, TMI.
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AGgressive Metal
Administrator
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 12:57:39
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They forgot whiskey. No kidding, I bet spirits will be in high demand if things start getting bad! |
And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world. -Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484 |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 18:16:56
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Home Depot wants too much for those buckets. Use kitty litter buckets.. they are free. The buckets are also handy for storing large amounts of copper. |
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silverhalide
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Posted - 01/31/2009 : 18:58:40
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An emergency and WTSHTF are really different circumstances. I tried to make that point in the cooking thread. An emergency can be supplemented by goods that can be easily replaced at a future date whereas WTSHTF the assumption in the ability to replace an item is near nil so the solution must be sustainable. |
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TenBears
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Posted - 02/16/2009 : 08:55:34
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I always enjoy reading this list when it pops up on one of the forums. It causes reflection and thought. |
"Rich," the Old Man said dreamily, "is not baying after what you can't have. Rich is having the time to do what you want to do. Rich is a little whiskey to drink and some food to eat and a roof over your head and a fish pole and a boat and a gun and a dollar for a box of shells. Rich is not owing any money to anybody, and not spending what you haven't got." Robert Ruark
there are too wild Indians... there are too wild Indians... there are too wild Indians...-----still taunted
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marklarpants
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 02/20/2009 : 20:46:58
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i need a generator, where would you store the gasoline where it couldn't be stolen? |
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Nickelless
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 02/22/2009 : 23:46:34
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quote: Originally posted by marklarpants
i need a generator, where would you store the gasoline where it couldn't be stolen?
gas has to be stabilized and rotated if you are going to store it for over 6 months. You should do some research if you are going to get a generator - survivalblog is probably your best bet. There are also generators than run on kerosene or other fuels I think, if gas storage turns out to be problematic. |
And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world. -Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484 |
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marklarpants
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 11:53:22
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quote: Originally posted by Nickelless
quote: Originally posted by marklarpants
i need a generator, where would you store the gasoline where it couldn't be stolen?
I'm not a generator expert or even a novice, for that matter, but here are a couple links I found:
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I think the obvious first step is to establish a secure storage area a safe distance away from your house so that any smokers in the family don't create any undue hazards.
my wife and i both quit cold turkey about 5 months ago... :) Besides what a terrible feeling that would be, no smokes & the world is ending lol. |
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Posted - 03/02/2009 : 00:36:00
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I know this is a bit off topic but if the world was 'ending' and a similiar situation like this happened, I would stock up on all that stuff + dog food.
Good list! |
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Nickelless
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vrbsroma
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Posted - 03/23/2009 : 21:49:22
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quote: Originally posted by silverhalide
An emergency and WTSHTF are really different circumstances. I tried to make that point in the cooking thread. An emergency can be supplemented by goods that can be easily replaced at a future date whereas WTSHTF the assumption in the ability to replace an item is near nil so the solution must be sustainable.
Agreed; two very different lists. Once is for a national/regional emergency that affects a single region, the other a doomsday scenario affecting the globe. |
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hector6man
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Posted - 04/24/2009 : 02:18:43
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30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels,,, Why use this when you'll be able to use $100 bills to wipe you ass with! |
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Nickelless
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LarryB
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Canada
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Posted - 06/20/2009 : 06:06:02
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Great thread Nickelless! :-) Lots of neat comments in here. :-) I have also copied this list to my computer. Thanx for sharing it with everyone, even though a few folks said they'd seen it before. Maybe because I live way up here in Canada, this is the first time I've seen it, so again, Thanx muchly 4 sharin' with us...lb |
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TaRget
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 08:21:05
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I dissagree with half of the things you have listed. few of the things will be the desired items needed in a disaster. Now people should have a lot of the things listed in there homes already. The only way people will be scavenging for many of the items on your list is if for looting/ bartering tools but if things were that bad people it would be more likely that people will kill rather than barter. |
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Nickelless
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 18:23:12
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TaRget, from what I understand, this list has been a pretty consistent inventory of things people have sought after a major event--not necessarily what they NEED, but what they buy or try to buy. I don't know if people will necessarily loot or kill for some of these things, but their lives will be harder without them. I don't see someone getting shot over a pack of AA batteries after a hurricane. Anyone who's willing to kill over little stuff was already inclined to kill to get what they want anyway. The shortages won't have anything to do with it. People looted after Katrina not because they needed stuff, but because they could. Having said that, again, the list above is what people tend to buy during or after a crisis not necessarily because it's what they need most, but because it's what they think they need--all the more reason to make a checklist now so you'll know what you need before a crisis hits. |
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jonflyfish
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USA
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Posted - 07/21/2009 : 15:38:16
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Great list. Last week I went and bought 6 20# and 1 100# propane cylinders from #16 on the list. After buying and filling those up, I dropped them off at home then went to Costco and loaded big time on # 27. Aluminum Foil- Heavy Duty. |
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Posted - 09/18/2009 : 22:25:48
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sounds like all the stuff I have in the garage. I am not a survivalist, just a boy scout leader who holds on to everything |
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