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Nickelless
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  05:58:42  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
EDIT: I just locked this thread to consolidate threads about barter items. Go to this thread for the active discussions:

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I just saw the first post by Wags...

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and I thought I'd offer my two copper cents. I've started buying bulk bags of loose tobacco, as well as plenty of rolling papers, and storing it in the same type of Mylar bags I'm storing food in. You never know when cigarettes might come in handy for barter or bribery, especially with the economy heading south. I've also bought a fifth of Jack Daniels (and more next week) that I'm keeping stashed away for the same reason. You never realize until it happens how drinks and smokes can open up diplomatic channels with difficult people.

First of all, this Google search is a good place to start:
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Here's a good thread over at GIM: You must be logged in to see this link.


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Kurr
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Posted - 12/07/2008 :  08:20:03  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Buy "roll your own" tobacco and papers. It will save you a sh!@load of money. I have smoked roll your owns since I was 13. I currently get 3/4 of an oz of tabacco and 36 papers for like 1.70. That's a pack and a half of smokes for less that 2 bucks. Bigger cans are available 8 oz with 200 papers for 8-10. That's a carton of smokes. Pipes if you can't roll, or anticipate trading to non rollers.

If you have a bucket and some jars you could consider trying your hand at applejack. Get your juice from whatever way you can, fresh, canned, etc. Ferment it with some yeast, then when its good, freeze it and pull off the ice. Alcohol doesn't freeze, so whats left is stronger. Keep fermenting and freezing and you can end up with something close to moonshine levels. It is also a process that is distinctly NOT distilling so it doesn't violate the laws governing things like stills and how much a year you can make. Store in mason jars.


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pennypincher
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Posted - 12/09/2008 :  07:15:10  Show Profile Send pennypincher a Private Message
Kurr, how long does the fermented apple juice/cider have to age before it's drinkable? I've heard you have to let it sit for a few months or so to let it mellow out a bit. Do you use regular old grocery store yeast or do you use wine or champagne yeast? I've made rootbeer before and the yeast recommended was champagne yeast to keep the yeast flavor as clean as possible.
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 12/09/2008 :  17:36:39  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pennypincher

Kurr, how long does the fermented apple juice/cider have to age before it's drinkable? I've heard you have to let it sit for a few months or so to let it mellow out a bit. Do you use regular old grocery store yeast or do you use wine or champagne yeast? I've made rootbeer before and the yeast recommended was champagne yeast to keep the yeast flavor as clean as possible.




You used yeast to make rootbeer? If so, it wasn't a softdrink. As for yeasts, you definately want brewers yeast, not baking yeast. Baking yeast will work, but the taste leaves a lot to be desired. Given the sugar content of apple juice, beer yeast would not ferment it entirely, and leave some sweetness in the finished product. Champagne yeast will ferment more completely, giving a drier finished product. Either type is available from homebrew stores, look for beer or wine making in the yellow pages or on the web. They come in dried form (cheaper) or liquid cultures (more pure), the dried type would work fine.


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TenBears
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USA
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Posted - 12/09/2008 :  17:40:55  Show Profile Send TenBears a Private Message
50 count boxes of .22 cartridges. These cost very little, but if TSHTF, they might be worth their weight in gold.

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pencilvanian
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Posted - 12/09/2008 :  18:39:52  Show Profile Send pencilvanian a Private Message
Here is an idea-
wind up watches, cheap Timex found at yard/garage sales, flea markets, church sales.
The reason, if button batteries become unavailable wind up watches will be the only kind of watch that will work. Button batteries may last a year or two in the package, but after that they tend to get weak or die.

concerning cigarettes and roll your own-
If you are interested, here are a few cigarette rolling machines-
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Even if you are not interested, it is still interesting to see that there are machines that will do the rolling for you.

I know some prefer to roll their own, though some smokers don't have the skill to do so and would prefer a smoke that looks like it came out fo the pack.
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Frugi
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Posted - 12/09/2008 :  19:07:36  Show Profile Send Frugi a Private Message
Nicorette.
Perfect for use in the battlefield.
You still get your fix but no smoke to get in your eyes to obscure your vision.
They also have about a 10 year shelf life, & don't require a lighter.

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