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searching4silver
Penny Pincher Member


111 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2008 :  11:00:36  Show Profile Send searching4silver a Private Message
Anyone out there scrap whole cars? I bet you could take out the wiring harness, radiator, catalytic converter, all of the steel and make some good money? Anyone have any experience with this? or has run the numbers to know if it would be profitable or worth the time?

n/a
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91 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2008 :  21:00:34  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
many factors - how much you pay for car, what is current pricing, do you have the right tools, space, etc...

you can make decent money if you get the right price
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B-Power-B
Penny Pincher Member

USA
111 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2008 :  22:27:09  Show Profile Send B-Power-B a Private Message
Well.. the biggest factor is your licenses. Most scrap processors will not accept hulks (crushed car shells) without a hulk haulers and/or dismantlers permit. Then you got the EPA. Theres money in it but you have to get the permits and licenses first.

Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
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simplicitycounts
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
535 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2008 :  23:53:44  Show Profile Send simplicitycounts a Private Message
Also some salvage yards are interested in purchasing running motors / transmissions and other parts for more than their scrap value.
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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



2906 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2008 :  08:59:48  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I thought I posted to this thread. Engine, transmission, starter, alternator rack an pinion- check for core item prices. Many blocks, heads, and transmission casings are aluminum now. 15-30 lbs of copper for the wiring harness. Copper radiator, possibly aluminum. Also take the rubber of and rims go for short steel. Gold on airbag sensors. Gold on oxygen sensors. Platinum in catalytic converter and in some spark plugs. How far ya wanna break it down? Also after you get the hull/frame stripped... FILL IT WITH JUNK HEAVY STEEL to get you "car body" weight up. Here I can strap a refrigerator to the top of a pickup cab and as long as I dont un strap it, gets weighed with the body so strap it on an pile it high!


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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2008 :  23:31:21  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
when my dad was growing up, he practically lived in a junkyard. They would load the cars up with anything they could find before it got sent to the crusher. They would sell all the good parts off first, then get it crushed.

Whether it is worth it or not to tear the thing apart is up to you. I think junk cars are now worth $200/ton. For that, I'd say pull off all the parts and sell them on ebay!!! Brake drums are worth money, radiator worth something, starter, alternator; cars are worth more money parted out than the entire car is worth running or scraped. Sell the parts to someone looking for a used part, and you'll get more than the scrap.

If you come across a 3rd gen chevy Nova or a Honda 600, let me know. If its worth the drive, I'll pay you more than scrap and you wont have to do anything.

"99% of all lawyers give the rest of them a bad name"


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B-Power-B
Penny Pincher Member

USA
111 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2008 :  01:37:44  Show Profile Send B-Power-B a Private Message
Whats a 3rd gen chevy Nova or a Honda 600 have you on the lookout for?

Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1664 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2008 :  11:21:13  Show Profile Send daviscfad a Private Message
quote:
Platinum in catalytic converter and in some spark plugs


where is the platinum located in a spark plug?

Inquiring minds want to know
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n/a
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105 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2009 :  23:25:31  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I thought the platinum in spark plugs was only in high end spark plugs. That being said, it would probably be the piece that makes the spark.
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2009 :  07:03:50  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by B-Power-B

Whats a 3rd gen chevy Nova or a Honda 600 have you on the lookout for?



68-72 nova, 70-72 honda n600.

"99% of all lawyers give the rest of them a bad name"


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2cents
Penny Sorter Member



USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  11:58:03  Show Profile Send 2cents a Private Message
Parting out an auto sounds like a good idea.

Sell the small parts on ebay and the big parts on Craigs list.

Anybody have much experience doing this?

Seems like the hardest thing for the average person would be getting rid of the hulk after you strip off eveything !

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2cents
Penny Sorter Member



USA
44 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  12:06:25  Show Profile Send 2cents a Private Message
If you have the right space to store the vehicle, just stripping off a few parts a week and selling them on ebay or Craigs list seems like a nice steady source of extra income.

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Mcprice302
Penny Collector Member



USA
404 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  23:21:11  Show Profile Send Mcprice302 a Private Message
Alright, I figure I'll make this my first post as I know a little about it. Doing this is how I survived last year when prices were good. First, you'll need to locate cars. This has gotten alot harder to do since everybody and there grandma has begun "buying junk cars". You probably cant drive 5 miles without seeing a sign someone has put up advertising this service. But anyways, if your out and spot a car that has been sitting for a while, looks delapidated, etc... just go and knock and ask if they would be interested in selling it. The worst they can do is tell you no. But, what I have found to be the best source is traders helpers, Buy/Sell Bulletin, and other weekly magazines that individuals list stuff to sell in. Here, you can look through hundreds of listings in the parts section without wasting a drop of gas. Find something that looks profitable (will discuss that later) and call them up. Find out where they live (will it be too far to warrant the gas burnt, maintainance of your truck, etc..?) and arrange a meeting. Now, here comes into play your negotiating skills. You want to find leverage against the price of the car any way you can even if its just going to the junkyard ( they do NOT need to know this though, some people can be very sentimental about cars even if they are selling them for cheap!) You could say that you wanted this for a parts car for your similar model at home, but are kind of dissapointed that it doesnt have such and such or this and that is broken and you kind of were hoping it had such and such part in better shape. And bring in a counter offer to theres, usually they will take it if you have had good interaction up to that point. If not, then lets just say for instance you offered $150 and there asking price was $200, you could then say "Alright, how about we both meet in the middle and call it $175. 9 and a half times out of 10 you'll be loading the car for that price, if they dont take the middle offer, then go ahead and pay $200 if its still profitable to do so. Timing between offers and facial expressions among many other things will determine the final deal, again it takes negotiating and people skills to make it at this.
What is profitable? You'll find that most of your money will come out of Ford vehicles. Why? because most all of them had dual "mono" convertors under them. The 96-98 mustangs had 6, but arent quite old enough to be found at scrap prices just yet. Also, American vehicles generally weigh more than foreign. Hondas and other foreign models usaully have just one convertor but are more valuable than a single mono. GM vehicles usually have either a "Bead" convertor or a small, medium, or large "GM" convertor. The "Beads" are rather big but hardly contain any platinum at all and bring dissapointingly low money for what there size would suggest. Also, you'll need to be able to identify "Aftermarket" convertors, these are usually what you'll find under newer pontiac grand ams, and such. They are darn near worthless and unless I was just desperate, wouldnt even waste a sawsall blade trying to remove it. MUST KNOW CONVERTOR TYPES TO BE SUCCESSFUL! Aluminum wheels can boost profits as well, where I am they bring about $12 a piece so thats $48 extra if it has them. Remove the radiator and condensor as well. Alternators can be removed too, but wouldnt waste time on starters unless they are easy to get to like in american trucks and other rear-wheel drive vehicles with alot of space to get in. You may want to cut some wiring out too, but just what you can visibly see, not worth it to pull the dash or anything to get that wire out. Some cars have aluminum hoods, magnet will tell you everything you need to know there.
Also, if you have any mechanical experience, dont crush cars that you get that need little work to make decent again. I just swapped a transmission in a 96 maximma that i bought for $450 and sold it for $2600 last month. Pulling parts for resale aint bad either especially in Mustangs, Crapmaros, and other cars with a following.
So to sum it up, call and check pricing at the yard, calculate the price to the weight of the vehicle (knowledge here can make all the difference), and estimate value of the radiator, convertor(s), alternator, starter, and whatever parts you think could be resold in the paper, or other source, and happy scrapping!
This is really only touching on the basics though, my hands hurt and cant type no more! lol, Any questions just ask and will be happy to help. -Mike
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
3890 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  10:55:54  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
Mcprice302, welcome and I'm sure your information will help out several guys here. Once again, welcome. Post well and post often.

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NiBullionCu
Penny Pincher Member



USA
168 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2009 :  08:13:31  Show Profile Send NiBullionCu a Private Message
Welcome Mcprice302 !!

It is contributions like yours that make this site great.

Using your experience to point people in the right direction and steer away from the common pitfalls is priceless.

Thanks again and welcome to the site!
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Mcprice302
Penny Collector Member



USA
404 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2009 :  11:02:14  Show Profile Send Mcprice302 a Private Message
Thanks yall, found this place seeing if anyone else was saving up copper and other scrap like I am. Never thought of the penny thing, but might try one day its raining or something. Anyone else scrap cars?
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1945V
Penny Pincher Member



Canada
153 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2009 :  11:53:59  Show Profile Send 1945V a Private Message
Scraping cars for parts is very time consuming, but certainly worth the effort.

When I bought my house, the previous owner left a small diesel engine in the garage. I was offered $15 for it by a scrap dealer. I decide for fun to take it apart and list the parts on eBay. I got nearly $250 for the injectors, injector piping, injector distributor, valve head and air pump and then gave the stripped engine block to the dealer for $15.00.

Before giving my last car to a scrap dealer for $50, I salvaged the computer module, ignition module, distributor, radio, fuel pump, wind shield wiper assembly, headlights, tail lights, starter and alternator and got almost $400 on eBay. I probably could have gotten another $100 for spare, 4 x tires and rims, if I listed them on Craig's list.

The problem now with eBay and PayPal is they wind up take almost a 25% cut. They really cranked up their fees in the last 5 years.
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