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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  08:58:52  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Frugi

I wish I could say that I am using a machine or a coin artist, but the fact of the matter is I'm not. I envy all of you guys that have gotten a machine from Ryedale. I am getting married in Sept. and I can't seem to find any extra money for anything right now. If I bought a coin artist I wouldnt be able to buy any coins. I do plan to buy one, I just need more time to raise the funds. I enjoy hand sorting anyway.


Wow, those are definately some impressive #'s for non-machine sorting. I don't have a machine yet either. But I will certainly be getting one. I enjoy hand sorting too.. but I don't do the volume that you do. That is why I am getting further and further behind. I buy the pennies in pretty good volume, but I don't sort them fast enough. I figure that Rydale Coin Artist will more than free up enough capital to pay for itself if it allows me to catch up on the 100 boxes of pennies I am behind.

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  16:54:32  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
It's funny, I thoguht I'd miss hand sorting when I got my coin artist, but I don't - now I just spend lots of time rolling.

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Posted - 04/03/2007 :  19:51:09  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Went through 25 more rolls from the bank. Percentage of pre-1982's were a little lower then what I have been getting. A big bonus was
a 1909 v.d.b. !

Running Total

5322 Pre 1982
156 Wheats
324 Candians

1 1905 Indian Head
1 1898 Indian Head
1 1881 Indian Head
1 1943 Steel
2 1909 v.d.b.

Running Percentage 27.4%
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  01:36:03  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_Nickle

It's funny, I thoguht I'd miss hand sorting when I got my coin artist, but I don't - now I just spend lots of time rolling.


You just need another machine for that. But that machine costs even more than the Rydale. No, I ain't giving one of mine up.

What do they say when you bring in 20 boxes of nickels to deposit?

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  01:58:05  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BonPecheur

Went through 25 more rolls from the bank. Percentage of pre-1982's were a little lower then what I have been getting. A big bonus was
a 1909 v.d.b. !


That's a great find! I think that coin wholesales for about $8.

Your prize package is in the mail.

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  02:34:35  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Hello Hoarders:

I've been casually hoarding here in Canada, mostly nickels, for about a year. Very minor stuff, but when I found this forum a week ago, I was very inspired by all of you, especially Canadian Nickel, of course. Would consider a Ryedale; I'm working on a magnetic separator too.

A few questions; CN might be particularly interested. My counts seem to mirror your experience so far; very close to 25% pure Ni, 50% cupronickel, 25% stainless. What do you do with all the cupronickel ones? I calculate they have about 6 cents worth of Ni and 4 cents of Cu, so are well above face themselves. Do you save them? In fact, I calculate a random bunch of Canadian nickels, all comers, is worth about twice face. Anyone ever considered just putting lots of them, unsorted, on ebay for Americans to buy and sort?
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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  07:16:46  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Beavertail

Hello Hoarders:

I've been casually hoarding here in Canada, mostly nickels, for about a year. Very minor stuff, but when I found this forum a week ago, I was very inspired by all of you, especially Canadian Nickel, of course. Would consider a Ryedale; I'm working on a magnetic separator too.

A few questions; CN might be particularly interested. My counts seem to mirror your experience so far; very close to 25% pure Ni, 50% cupronickel, 25% stainless. What do you do with all the cupronickel ones? I calculate they have about 6 cents worth of Ni and 4 cents of Cu, so are well above face themselves. Do you save them? In fact, I calculate a random bunch of Canadian nickels, all comers, is worth about twice face. Anyone ever considered just putting lots of them, unsorted, on ebay for Americans to buy and sort?



Welocme. Here in the U.S. we hoard the 25%-75% nickels. I don't think unsorted would sell very well due to shipping costs, but who knows?

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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  07:17:48  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
I thought you guys might enjoy seeing this.

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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  07:40:07  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
I saw that and thought what a waste. They hand counted 1 million pennies and didn't even bother to sort out the copper ones. It about broke my heart.

Now what would have been a good lesson for the students would have been to teach them the difference between good money and bad.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:59:38  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ardent Listener

I thought you guys might enjoy seeing this.

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I saw that picture and story too. If you are a serious penny hoarder it could make you drool. I had a different perspective on the story. I was thinking.. Hmmm.. Chico is only 3 hours north of me. Maybe I should do the good civic duty thing and loan them 2 or 3 of my Glory counting machines. And then I could be an even nicer guy and cash them out so they wouldn't have to ship them back to the treasury <G> Sooooo many virgin pennies!!!! And then reality set in. Assuming a 25% copper content (250,000 copper cents) the weight is above 3 tons. My poor little Camry sags at the back end when I load it up with one of my regular weekly shipments, so I couldn't realisticly transport that much weight.. no matter how much I want them. But I might take a little trip up that way and stop off at that bank that is helping them process them and see if I can't help them out a little by taking a 1 or 2 dozen bags off their hands so they don't have to incur the shipping costs to send them back to the treasury. I would call the adventure my penny rescue mission. Just doing my small part to "preserve the coinage."

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:13:18  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Coin Sorting Percentages for yesterday:
34 Half Dollars
1 40% Silver Half

20 Rolls bank wrapped pennies
192 Copper
19.2%

Coin Buying Report for yesterday:
Washington Mutual - Richmond
34 Half Dollars
20 rolls customer wrapped pennies

Bank of America - Richmond
2 boxes bank wrapped pennies

Loomis daily coin drop at work
6 rolls bank wrapped pennies
(I swap out 6 rolls of zinc for these)


"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
672 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  19:00:04  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
sorted a $25 box today from bank of the west

1728 zincs
672 coppers
75 1982's
21 wheats
4 canadians

672/2500 = 26.88%

someday i need to get a cool hoard code or running totals signature like some of you have
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  19:42:09  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Check this out, what do you think ?

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Running Total

5322 Pre 1982
156 Wheats
324 Candians

1 1905 Indian Head
1 1898 Indian Head
1 1881 Indian Head
1 1943 Steel
2 1909 v.d.b.

Running Percentage 27.4%
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  19:52:36  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
10 Rolls

93 Copper

"To the uninformed, pocket change.
To the informed, an investment."
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  01:22:48  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BonPecheur

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I think I could outsort someone using this device with my pocket scale. Anything that requires you to place the coins one at a time in it rather than having a batch feed will be really slow. I don't think Rydale has anything to worry about here. I also noticed the last person to win one of these was also high bidder on my bag of copper cents I put up for auction. Maybe after a few hours of using the device he decided it was much easier to just buy the copper cents presorted. I just put up another box and bag.. wonder if he will be bidding again.

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  02:30:57  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
7 mixed boxes Canadian nickels.

3190/14000
=22.79%

++++++++++++++
Running totals:

Nickels
Sorted: 190,880
Found: 46,248
Average: 24.23%
Ni Weight: 462.48lb
Face Value ($CDN): $2,312.40
Melt Value (26.44$CDN/lb): $12,227.97
Profit: 528.8%!

Pennies
Sorted: 12500
Found: 5922
Average: 47.38%
Cu Weight*: 37.83lb
Face Value ($CDN): $59.22
Today's Value (3.63$CDN/lb): $137.32
Profit: 231.88%

TOTAL INVESTMENT RISK EXPOSURE: $0.00!!!

Unknown opportunity cost of having my money in coins instead of "the stock market": Don't know & don't care.

Rock.

*(Assume .006389lb avg)
+++++++++++++++++++++++

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"A nickel's nothing to scoff at."
C. Montgomery Burns

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  11:04:51  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_Nickle

7 mixed boxes Canadian nickels.

3190/14000
=22.79%


The percentages seem to be slipping a little. I better hurry up and get me a bunch of boxes of Canadian Nickels before you guys take out all the good ones.

How much does 7 boxes of nickels weigh?

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  14:40:17  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
140lb. 20 on the back, 40 on the sides, 80 in the arms.

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  23:45:37  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
6 boxes machine rolled Canadian Nickels.

2706/12000
=22.55%

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Running totals:

Nickels
Sorted: 202,880
Found: 48,954
Average: 24.13%
Ni Weight: 489.54lb
Face Value ($CDN): $2,447.7
Melt Value (26.44$CDN/lb): $12,943.44
Profit: 528.8%!

Pennies
Sorted: 12500
Found: 5922
Average: 47.38%
Cu Weight*: 37.83lb
Face Value ($CDN): $59.22
Today's Value (3.63$CDN/lb): $137.32
Profit: 231.88%

TOTAL INVESTMENT RISK EXPOSURE: $0.00!!!

Unknown opportunity cost of having my money in coins instead of "the stock market": Don't know & don't care.

Rock.

*(Assume .006389lb avg)

________________________
"A nickel's nothing to scoff at."
C. Montgomery Burns

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/06/2007 :  04:36:06  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Today was a great day, all around!

Sorting percentages for today:
20 Customer wrapped rolls of pennies
311 Copper
1 wheat
31.1% - These were from that sweet group I picked up last week.

Buying Report for today:
Wells Fargo Bank - Livermore
4 boxes machine wrapped rolls of pennies from Trader Joes

Comerica - Danville
12 Boxes bank wrapped pennies
3 boxes bank wrapped nickels

"Preserving coinage.. 2 tons at a time"

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Cerulean
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
993 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2007 :  14:03:17  Show Profile Send Cerulean a Private Message
From circulation:

106 zinc pennies (1982-2007)
29 copper pennies (1960-1982)
1 wheat penny (1935)
1 Canadian cent (1977)
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137 coins
29 / 135 = 21.5%

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Penny Search Totals:
881 zincs (1982-2006) 77.1%
254 coppers (1959-1982) 22.2%
6 wheats (1940-1952)
1 dime (2004)
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Posted - 04/06/2007 :  18:35:46  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
After reading this board for a year I finally broke down & bought a box yesterday. It actually didn't take as long as I thought to sort it.

680 coppers
13 wheats
4 Canadian

27.88%



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Posted - 04/06/2007 :  19:05:40  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
4 rolls today: 97/200 = 48.5% copper

Small quantity but nice percentage

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  01:42:20  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Johnny99

After reading this board for a year I finally broke down & bought a box yesterday. It actually didn't take as long as I thought to sort it.

680 coppers
13 wheats
4 Canadian

27.88%



Welcome to the board, Johnny. Glad to see your first box was a good one. Careful.. this sorting thing can be addicting. I lurked on this board for several months before joining and posting also.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/07/2007 :  01:45:19  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wes

4 rolls today: 97/200 = 48.5% copper

Small quantity but nice percentage



Those are some sweet rolls, Wes. Where did you get them? Or have been holding on to them for several years?

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