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darsemnos
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  19:06:30  Show Profile Send darsemnos a Private Message
Tulving lists 2008 silver eagles as $5.99 over spot and in stock.

Junk silver is at $4.50 over spot.

Gold eagles are $99 over spot.

It's getting nuts.

I suppose it makes sense. Silver goes down $2, so the premium goes up $2.

Monex still seems to offer decent prices, but I haven't checked to see if they actually have any stock.

Nickelless
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  19:23:36  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I'm getting copper pennies at less than 70 percent of spot.


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fb101
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USA
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  19:24:32  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
In a perverse way it does. They were paying spot+ for those eagles, and they're not going to drop the profit over what they paid. I suspect, in more liquid markets they have more flexibility, and can follow spot better because they know they can replenish at a certain price. In this market, spot may be $10, but they still have to pay $15 for them and they are keeping their profit margin. If they want to stay in business they have to. Also, they are being hurt by the lack of supply.

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Posted - 10/12/2008 :  10:48:11  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Another way you can look at it is as a decoupling between paper bullion and the real stuff. While the paper market is doing... whatever the hell it's doing, the market on the street is reflecting ordinary people's flight to safety.

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Somnophore
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United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2008 :  12:21:50  Show Profile Send Somnophore a Private Message
well if what eveyone says is true and silver is hard to come by and dealers cab hardly get any, then the few they get they will need to charge a higher premium on to maintain their income, if they could push more volume they could reduce the premiums. It's the same in any business.
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Cody8404
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USA
602 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2008 :  18:16:40  Show Profile Send Cody8404 a Private Message
Stoped at the coin store yesterday. Silver was at $10.50. Silver rounds cost $18. Silver Eagles cost $30.

Little more than I hoped.

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CoinHunter53562
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USA
1805 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2008 :  22:53:27  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cody8404

Stoped at the coin store yesterday. Silver was at $10.50. Silver rounds cost $18. Silver Eagles cost $30.

Little more than I hoped.



Wow that is one of the biggest premiums I have heard of! Did the dealer say what he was paying for those items?

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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2008 :  23:53:40  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
What's stopping people from paying the current spot price via paper. Then having it delivered? NWTMINT is selling 10oz bars min 50oz for 114.7 a bar.
Compaired to Ebay 180 I've been seeing. People say the shipping takes a while. But what's it matter, if you're saving a couple hundred bucks?

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 10/13/2008 :  01:30:14  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

I'm getting copper pennies at less than 70 percent of spot.


Yes, but you are selling them at 80% of face.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 10/13/2008 :  01:31:59  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cody8404

Stoped at the coin store yesterday. Silver was at $10.50. Silver rounds cost $18. Silver Eagles cost $30.

Little more than I hoped.


That does seem like a high premium. I figure at those prices I might as well get Proof Eagles. Got 2 really shiny ones at the coin show today for $32 each.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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moboman
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USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  08:24:12  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

quote:
Originally posted by Cody8404

Stoped at the coin store yesterday. Silver was at $10.50. Silver rounds cost $18. Silver Eagles cost $30.

Little more than I hoped.


That does seem like a high premium. I figure at those prices I might as well get Proof Eagles. Got 2 really shiny ones at the coin show today for $32 each.



I want proof silver eagles for $32 each! Someone must have really needed the money to let go of proofs for that. I like proofs. The boxes are worth atleast a couple bucks apiecee.

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horgad
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USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  08:55:05  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neckro

What's stopping people from paying the current spot price via paper. Then having it delivered? NWTMINT is selling 10oz bars min 50oz for 114.7 a bar.
Compaired to Ebay 180 I've been seeing. People say the shipping takes a while. But what's it matter, if you're saving a couple hundred bucks?



Thanks, nice prices especially on silver and they have the most stuff in stock of anyplace that I have seen lately.

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rodzm
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USA
143 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  09:25:45  Show Profile  Send rodzm a Yahoo! Message Send rodzm a Private Message
Ive heard NWT Mint takes forever to send their orders. Granted late is better than never but if it takes months for me to receive my order then Ill pass
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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  09:32:44  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by rodzm

Ive heard NWT Mint takes forever to send their orders. Granted late is better than never but if it takes months for me to receive my order then Ill pass



Anyone with personal experience buying or selling is most welcome to go into details on our new dealers forum, but I too have heard the same about NWTM and I agree that I would pass on them too.

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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2008 :  09:57:19  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
I'll be willing to part with my ASE's for 30bucks a pop =D

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