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coppernickel
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 13:11:36
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| Plain site is best. My best hiding spot is an old pile of metal junk in the back yard with weeds growing all over it. The only trails to or from it are used by racoons, skunks and cats. |
Silver Monometalism is the most permanent and stable form of money the world has seen. Natural law and history prove silver value is best multiplied by gold and best divided by copper. It is only in this counterfeit currency time when the natural law appears suspended. |
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Nickelless
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 17:15:57
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The Purloined Letter by Edgar Allen Poe
(Kind of fitting to mention Poe in the month of October, being so close to Halloween and all.)
In Poe's story, a blackmailer had stolen a letter from a prominent lady with embarassing information written on it.
The letter was hidden in plain sight kept in a rack of other letters and envelopes containing bills, dinner invitations, correspondence and the like on the desk of the blackmailer.
The police had searched for the letter in the blackmailer's house while he was not at home but overlooked the obvious (the rack containing the letters.)
Cash has been hidden inside chairs and couches, the lining in the back was removed and money tucked away for safe keeping. Substitute cash for gold or silver wrapped in cloth so it doesn't jingle and your furniture acts as a nice hiding place for your valuables.
To prevent rug damage, there is a hard rubber or plastic cup like object that keeps chair or couch legs from tearing up the rug (I think they are called castors). Place a silver or gold coin either under the caster or in the caster with the leg on top of the coin (Don't do this with a numismatic coin or it may get damaged.)
Hide a few coins in knick-knacks on the matle, if you have a garden or backyard, place some large slate or flagstones along as a pathway with a gold coin or two under one flagstone.
Brick fireplace in your house? Carefully remove one brick and you have a place to hide a gold coin or two.
The ideas are endless, let your imagination run wild, you can think of a dozen hiding places if you start to think of everyplace as a hiding place.
(Footnote: I glued a large plastic cup to the cup holder in my car since the built in cup holder is too wide and the cups tend to fall out. With the large cup glued in place the cups can't fall out. Yesterday as I got into my car, I dropped a $10 I recieved in change into the cup holder and forgot about it until ten last night. The cup was high enough so on one would notice the bill and try to break in and get it. If a cup holder can hide away a $10 and arouse no suspicion, there must me plenty of places around your house where you can hide things that will go unnoticed.)
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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 Posted - 10/21/2009 : 18:27:15
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There is some good info in this thread, good common sense stuff that is applicable anytime. But, I have to ask. If things ever really got that bad here, and you have to go to these extremes to hide things, what are you planning on doing with them when you dig them up or take them from hiding?
With PM's, if your'e hiding them it is most likely because they were ordered to be confiscated. Although I don't believe physical confiscation is a big worry, I do however feel taxation, regulation, licensing and documentation is the more likely path.
The State could mandate all PM's have to be registered, owners must purchase renewable licenses and permits to own, transfer and store PM's. Fully disclosing all transfers. With the mandatory book keeping and actual metals available for inspection at any time by the authorities.
There would be;
Storage taxes
Holding taxes
Transfer taxes
Profit taxes
Registration fees
Inspection fees
Document fees
Transportation fees
Non registered PM's would become contraband. Undocumented transfers would be illegal. Confiscated on site with out compensation, or just a huge penalty fee.
Don't you think you will attract some unwanted attention when you try to use these freshly unearthed metals?
The same could be said for just about anything actually. If you get caught with more of a commodity than your Government issued "ration card" says you should have, or get caught trading them without the proper Government paperwork, uh oh, now what?
If things ever look like they are going to get that bad, it means this nation crossed the point of no return. Would you really want to still live here? I know I be won't hanging around this crappy country anymore. The Ambassador Bridge into Windsor is only 25 minutes away for me... I also have some cousins who live south of Winnipeg.
I'm not keen on being a subject instead of a Citizen. Taking the You must be logged in to see this link. will be a bitter pill to swallow for a 2rd generation American whose all 4 grandparents fled from being subjects of monarchs and Communists to come to the "land of the free". But if things get that bad in this country, I guess I would already be a subject and it would be a moot point.
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Gresham
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 19:13:22
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If Bluegill is right about the next step then maybe already having your PM's hidden and ready to exit with may be a good idea.
Wouldn't this help against the common burglar too? |
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2209 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2009 : 20:42:14
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Defense against a burgler was my intent when starting this topic, though keeping PM safe from unfriendly confiscation is a secondary concern.
If things do reach the point of big brother watching everyone, then PMs will be useful for bribing the border guards while sneaking out of the country. The US has a hard enough time monitoring the Mexican border for people trying to enter, will the US have an easier job of keeping people trying to leave?
Anyway, protecting things from burglars is the main purpose of this topic. |
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PennySaved
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USA
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 22:59:51
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Don't you think if confiscation occurred in the US that it would happen throughout the whole world?
Not to make this a religious speach but some of us believe in the prophecies in the Bible of the One World government. With the European Union in place, is it a big stretch that an American Union would occur and so on.
Maybe our best bet is to buy an island somewhere and start an economy based on the Gold standard ;) Wishful thinking I know. |
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 10/21/2009 : 23:33:09
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Originally posted by PennySaved
Don't you think if confiscation occurred in the US that it would happen throughout the whole world?
Not to make this a religious speach but some of us believe in the prophecies in the Bible of the One World government. With the European Union in place, is it a big stretch that an American Union would occur and so on.
Maybe our best bet is to buy an island somewhere and start an economy based on the Gold standard ;) Wishful thinking I know.
What if like Joseph in the Old Testament the Lord is using people right now to hide food and other resources when the end times come into full swing (and I can't help but wonder if we're getting pretty close)? There could be any number of places on the planet that could serve as a refuge for people in the midst of the final persecution during the Tribulation. I'm not saying how this will or won't play out or when it might happen, I'm just saying I think that God could be strategically placing people in positions with resources to provide a hiding place when persecution hits--sort of like the Underground Railroad, safehouses in Germany for Jews during World War 2, etc. |
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beauanderos
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City38
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Posted - 10/22/2009 : 23:54:10
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| I think I recall seeing some books on the subject of hiding places in the Delta Press magazine. Its been a while since I received one in the mail though. Ragnar Benson wrote a book called "Ragnar's Big Book of Homemade Weapons" (underline?) that had a section on weapon storage. It's all common knowledge in the book but it gets the mind working. I think dummy cast iron/metal pipes would be a good place, and depending on the size, lots of precious things could be hidden. Who would tear open a (dummy)sewer pipe? |
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