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Steiner
Penny Collector Member
  
 Canada
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 21:18:21
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Holy crap this is great. You could clean up on bar bets telling people you can rip a penny apart with you bare hands. LOL
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TXTim
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 21:50:50
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That looks like fun!
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ScottyTX
Penny Hoarding Member
   

USA
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 22:05:12
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| Wow thats neat, now I just need to get the stuff to try it out. Geee whiz very impressive |
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Steiner
Penny Collector Member
  

Canada
278 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2008 : 02:56:00
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I wonder if this could be done on a large scale and allow for the harvesting of pure copper from Zincs...........Hmmmm.....
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Copper Catcher
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USA
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 06:19:23
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| If anyone does this I'd like to get a few from them! |
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natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 07:11:49
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| Did that in chemistry in 9th grade. We did it with one pre-82 and one post-82 and had to compare the results (which should be pretty obvious). We also had to determine the percentage of zinc in the post-82 penny. |
Nate The Copper Cave
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Nickelless
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USA
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Nickelless
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jpf231
Penny Collector Member
  

USA
340 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2008 : 07:48:41
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| Really cool - the zinc core desintegrates in the HCL after just several hours ... |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2008 : 13:00:10
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I did this a while back but I didn't do the sandpaper step. If you don't do the sandpaper step, you get a lot of damage to the copper layer before the zinc is dissolved. So what was left of my copper penny was much thinner than the one the video shows.
Anyhow I think I going to have to try this again and if they turn out OK I'll send a couple to Copper Catcher. |
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Copper Catcher
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USA
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 15:47:56
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Thanks horgad!
Question: Has anyone found while sorting pennies a penny that looks like the copper layer was missing all together either on the entire penny or on one side? I have a few and wondered what the value was and if they should be sent in to PCGS to certify or if it would be worth it? Anyone know?
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 18:21:29
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quote: Originally posted by Copper Catcher
Thanks horgad!
Question: Has anyone found while sorting pennies a penny that looks like the copper layer was missing all together either on the entire penny or on one side? I have a few and wondered what the value was and if they should be sent in to PCGS to certify or if it would be worth it? Anyone know?
Most of these are pennies that people have experimented on (either by plating them or deplating them), but I do believe there are some real mint errors out there that cause that all zinc look. The problem is I don't know how to tell the difference. So all though I have seen several of them, I generally ignore them...
I swear that I saw one that had been certified, for sale, the other day, but I can't find the link now. Still the odds are it is not an error...wish I could help more.
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 08/09/2008 : 18:52:30
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quote: Originally posted by Steiner
I wonder if this could be done on a large scale and allow for the harvesting of pure copper from Zincs...........Hmmmm.....
US 97.5% Zinc Penny: Calculate 2.5% copper value : (3.4257 × .00220462262 × 2.5 × .025) = $0.0004720
Plus since the copper is on the outside, all loss due to wear would be from the minimal amount of copper value. Zinc is lost in the process, so zero value there. Deduct the required materials, effort to sand off a little copper (further reducing the copper recovered)... I think I'll stick to sorting.
If Copper ever gets high enough to justify pulling it of zincs we will be sorting quarters for CuNi
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“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw. Why Copper Bullion ~~~ Interview with Silver Bullion Producer Market Harmony Passive Income blog |
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 08/17/2008 : 17:46:35
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You must be logged in to see this link. Very interesting demonstration and easy to do. Just be sure and turn off the music since it is truly offensive. |
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw. Why Copper Bullion ~~~ Interview with Silver Bullion Producer Market Harmony Passive Income blog |
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
1964 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2008 : 17:59:27
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quote: Originally posted by legacypac
You must be logged in to see this link. Very interesting demonstration and easy to do. Just be sure and turn off the music since it is truly offensive.
I suppose if the price of Zn gets high enough to justify such measures, and the melt ban is still in effect, that is one way to circumvent it.
Actually, didn't he just violate the melt ban and post it on the internet..? 
I am curious, why do you find that song offensive?
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 08/17/2008 : 18:07:50
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| It is not my style of music is all. Yes, I'd say he violated the melt ban but the ban is hardly designed to protect coins one at a time. Interesting to see how easy zn melts. |
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw. Why Copper Bullion ~~~ Interview with Silver Bullion Producer Market Harmony Passive Income blog |
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 08/17/2008 : 18:41:21
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Probably so, but never underestimate the zealousness and stupidity of Government. But on that note, maybe that is a way around the melt ban, 1 at a time... 
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jadedragon
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Posted - 08/17/2008 : 19:20:26
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quote: Originally posted by Bluegill
Probably so, but never underestimate the zealousness and stupidity of Government. But on that note, maybe that is a way around the melt ban, 1 at a time... 
It would be amazing how fast I could melt them one at a time... nano seconds between. The other way is to melt Canadian Copper you buy from me - just don't tell me about it. |
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw. Why Copper Bullion ~~~ Interview with Silver Bullion Producer Market Harmony Passive Income blog |
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simplicitycounts
Penny Hoarding Member
   

USA
535 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 00:28:41
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| I'm more impressed with the floating penny then ripping it in half :) |
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Steiner
Penny Collector Member
  

Canada
278 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 00:55:46
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Well Legacypac's video is certainly something I will file in the back of my mind for future reference.
I suppose one could ring the burner with pennies and up production, 5 minutes worth of propane on high is maybe worth $.50. but now you have both zinc and copper separated and scrapable.
'And just as an aside here I used to type on a typewriter and I always had the cent symbol now it is gone and it really cheeses me off that I need to type $.01 instead of 1 cent sign.
Thank you
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 08/20/2008 : 06:15:35
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It is a pain but you can still get a cent sign and a bunch of other stuff too.
1¢
While using the number pad, try typing Alt 0162. |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 08/20/2008 : 06:35:41
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¢¢¢¢ I works. Amazing. I knew more existed....hehe
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Live free or die. Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams |
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Steiner
Penny Collector Member
  

Canada
278 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2008 : 15:54:04
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Excellent Smithers.
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 08/20/2008 : 17:26:00
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quote: Originally posted by horgad
It is a pain but you can still get a cent sign and a bunch of other stuff too.
1¢
While using the number pad, try typing Alt 0162.
¿Que? That is so cool!! I was just wondering today how to type an inverted question mark. Well, it took until 6:25pm, but I learned something today!! Thanks Horgad
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