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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  09:35:14  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Is $25 face copper worth 3 morgans/peace?

Or is $25 face copper worth $25 dollars and 1oz round/bar .999 silver?

I'm just asking and have no idea.

Bobby Deese

Kurr
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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  09:48:14  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I am no expert but IMO it all depends. Are the Morgans worn smooth or Unc? I have a buddy that has an 1880 O that is probably worth a grand in the book. I have a Morgan worth probably 20-25 or so. All depends...


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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  10:14:38  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I just mean 3 morgans for the silver value. So ones in bad condition.

Bobby Deese
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  13:51:01  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fhbob

Is $25 face copper worth 3 morgans/peace?

Or is $25 face copper worth $25 dollars and 1oz round/bar .999 silver?

I'm just asking and have no idea.



Whatever you can negotiate... Are you buying or selling? Take a look through the Buy Sell Trade section here and check ebay.

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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  14:50:01  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I have the pennies, and just wondered how much silver they were worth.

Bobby Deese
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TXTim
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Posted - 08/01/2008 :  16:45:07  Show Profile Send TXTim a Private Message
Your #2 copper (pennies), is worth $46.50 at $2.70/lb. today.
3 morgans are worth $40.62 melt value at $17.50/oz. today.

Beer is my currency.
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SANITARIUM_INMATE
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  12:58:54  Show Profile Send SANITARIUM_INMATE a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by TXTim

Your #2 copper (pennies), is worth $46.50 at $2.70/lb. today.
3 morgans are worth $40.62 melt value at $17.50/oz. today.


As far as resale I thing the silver morgans would be a little better at the moment. Melt may be only $17.50 right now but the premium people are paying for a $1 morgan just in melt is about $19 to $21 each plus an inflated shipping price. As far as the going price for $25 face in copper cents are only yielding about $35 to $40 with only a modest shipping due to the weight. My opinion would be to check out ended listings of junk morgans with shipping prices and multiply by the 3 then make a much wiser decision.
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tadpole
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  16:33:06  Show Profile Send tadpole a Private Message
TXTim: Where are you arriving at the $2.70 figure?
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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  17:02:45  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
Melt value isn't the best way to look at it. Actual selling prices are what you should look at. I think it is somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6 cents times face. So at 1.5 each that's $37.50 for your cents while three junk Morgan or Peace dollars are about $40.60. Good deal if you are trading the pennies for the dollars.

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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  18:32:27  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Do you have to pay shipping? If you have to ship the $25 in cents, then I wouldn't think its a good deal unless you can do it for $50-$75 in cents. If you don't have to ship, I'd do it.
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TXTim
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  21:46:41  Show Profile Send TXTim a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tadpole

TXTim: Where are you arriving at the $2.70 figure?



That's what the local scrap dealers are paying for #2 copper around here. Copper pennies are considered #2 copper.

Beer is my currency.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2008 :  22:06:18  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
The price on #2 copper looks about right to me. Supposed melt value would be higher for the pennies, but even if it was legal to melt you would still only get #2 copper price from a metals dealer. Deal is dead on for what the market is valuing copper pennies at right now. I would trade that many pennies myself for the junk dollars if there is no shipping involved.. but of course I have a bigger hoard of copper pennies than my hoard of junk dollars right now and I like to diversify. The cost to ship the pennies would be a disincentive like Wolfgang says unless you were swapping 3 boxes at a time.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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jpf231
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USA
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  08:47:05  Show Profile Send jpf231 a Private Message
eh ... it's close ... kind of favor the silver at this moment.
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Cody8404
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USA
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  16:54:21  Show Profile Send Cody8404 a Private Message
With Silver at $20 an Ounce. If I want to sell a Morgan Silver Dollar to a dealer I would expect $12-13 for it. If I wanted to buy a generic Morgan I would expect to pay $22-25. I don't think the $25 is too much.

This might be a good buy as the cheap silver is disappearing.

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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  18:38:46  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cody8404

With Silver at $20 an Ounce. If I want to sell a Morgan Silver Dollar to a dealer I would expect $12-13 for it. If I wanted to buy a generic Morgan I would expect to pay $22-25. I don't think the $25 is too much.

This might be a good buy as the cheap silver is disappearing.


But silver is just over $17....

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Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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SANITARIUM_INMATE
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Posted - 08/05/2008 :  13:39:34  Show Profile Send SANITARIUM_INMATE a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

quote:
Originally posted by Cody8404

With Silver at $20 an Ounce. If I want to sell a Morgan Silver Dollar to a dealer I would expect $12-13 for it. If I wanted to buy a generic Morgan I would expect to pay $22-25. I don't think the $25 is too much.

This might be a good buy as the cheap silver is disappearing.


But silver is just over $17....

Deal

Even with silver at $17 and the dollar coins only containing 90% silver they are still getting over melt price on ebay. Check out ended auctions to see at $17 an ounce for pure silver, a junk morgan can still fetch about $18 plus shipping. All this even when the value of actual silver content is $12-$13 a coin. It blows my mind how a #2 copper penny can sell under melt like it does when a #2(in my book) only 90% silver dollar can get more than melt.

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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 08/05/2008 :  17:24:35  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
SANITARIUM INMATE, I don't generally shop eBay. Too high prices obviously. I only shop local, or pick online good deals. I'll tell you what, I have never sold a single penny, but if you want to buy my coppers at melt they are yours.... I'll trade you for your #2 silver....

Deal

Live free or die.
Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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PennehChaos.
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USA
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Posted - 08/06/2008 :  11:11:29  Show Profile Send PennehChaos. a Private Message
Silver bounces around so much that it's hard to keep track of on a daily basis!

i tend to take more than just raw market price into consideration... Coppers are still circulating (more or less... i've been getting skunked a lot lately). On the other hand, once in a very long while somebody will get lucky at a bank, but for the most part, the days of picking up Morgans at face are looooong past. i also like the Morgan design a lot more than the Linc.

i also bottom-feed ebay, so i've gotten Morgans and Peace dollars at melt, and gotten XF+ ones in the $15 range (including shipping).

But for a face-to-face transfer (no shipping), i'd trade copper for silver on those terms any day of the week...

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SANITARIUM_INMATE
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211 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2008 :  11:35:11  Show Profile Send SANITARIUM_INMATE a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

SANITARIUM INMATE, I don't generally shop eBay. Too high prices obviously. I only shop local, or pick online good deals. I'll tell you what, I have never sold a single penny, but if you want to buy my coppers at melt they are yours.... I'll trade you for your #2 silver....

Deal


I wish I had a lot of either copper or silver right now. I only just picked up my largest order of only 2 $25 boxes of pennies yesterday.
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SANITARIUM_INMATE
Penny Pincher Member



211 Posts

Posted - 08/07/2008 :  11:57:00  Show Profile Send SANITARIUM_INMATE a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

SANITARIUM INMATE, I don't generally shop eBay. Too high prices obviously. I only shop local, or pick online good deals. I'll tell you what, I have never sold a single penny, but if you want to buy my coppers at melt they are yours.... I'll trade you for your #2 silver....

Deal


I wish I had a lot of either copper or silver right now. I only just picked up my largest order of only 2 $25 boxes of pennies yesterday.
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