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pencilvanian
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  18:15:50  Show Profile Send pencilvanian a Private Message
From NBR (Nightly Business Report)

The US Air Force uses 10% of all jet fuel sold in the US
(2.6 billion gallons)

The USAF is also working with jet engine manufacturers and airline to help develop a coal to liquids market.

The coal to liquids fuel industry is expected to be viable by 2012.

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Will coal to liquid fuels finally become a reality in the US the same way it is in South Africa (SASOL) or is this just another pipe dream? Keep an eye out for further developments...

redneck
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Posted - 06/10/2008 :  22:55:56  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message
Quote;

The coal to liquids fuel industry is expected to be viable by 2012.
end


It was viable in WWII.

Germany used it almost exclusively .(ran everything on it)

Get ready for the next Government (taxpayer) subsidy.
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horgad
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  09:43:06  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
I have been intrigued by the possibility of hoarding some coal. It is relatively cheap BTUs right now (plus it is fairly easy to store). I know that it sucks for the environment, but a supply of that stuff to heat your home for a winter or two would be a nice addition to a WTSHTF hoard. IMHO
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swusc
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  11:43:36  Show Profile Send swusc a Private Message
Why not just get a fire place and get fire wood? If you live outside a city, then I would guess you could get some cheaper land (I know some land in the country around me goes for $1500 an acre) to start growing your own firewood.

-SWUSC

`Everybody is ignorant. Only on different subjects.' Will Rogers

"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan, 1966.
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horgad
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2008 :  11:55:32  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by swusc

Why not just get a fire place and get fire wood? If you live outside a city, then I would guess you could get some cheaper land (I know some land in the country around me goes for $1500 an acre) to start growing your own firewood.

-SWUSC



Bugs, rodents, and volume. :) Firewood is a little bit harder to store I think, but I like the idea of buying some wooded land.
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tmaring
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2008 :  14:20:50  Show Profile Send tmaring a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by horgad

I have been intrigued by the possibility of hoarding some coal. It is relatively cheap BTUs right now (plus it is fairly easy to store). I know that it sucks for the environment, but a supply of that stuff to heat your home for a winter or two would be a nice addition to a WTSHTF hoard. IMHO
This is an especially good idea if you do (or plan to do) any smithing. Get the lowest sulphur coal you can get (might cost a little more).
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wheeler_dealer
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2008 :  23:00:37  Show Profile  Send wheeler_dealer a Yahoo! Message Send wheeler_dealer a Private Message
I have a friend who uses a coal stove to heat his house and he claims it is more efficient than other fuel sources. He also uses a wood stove yet prefers his coal for both cost and efficiency. In the future as energy costs rise and other natural resources become more taxed we may see coal technology being applied in many different areas due to its' abundance and low cost.
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