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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 05/27/2008 : 20:19:05
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1. By hand. 2. No 3. Yes 4. Yes
Deal |
Live free or die. Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams |
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Posted - 05/27/2008 : 20:52:03
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hey deal you said you do that cave work. does that happen to be in missouri? |
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 05/27/2008 : 21:37:14
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quote: Originally posted by NotABigDeal
1. By hand. 2. No 3. Yes 4. Yes
Deal
So I have to buy Shotgun Shells too... |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2008 : 06:24:09
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quote: Originally posted by jktruckin06
hey deal you said you do that cave work. does that happen to be in missouri?
Yes it is.... Do you deliver to some? PM me if you want a more specific cave complex.
Deal |
Live free or die. Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2008 : 06:30:17
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quote: Originally posted by legacypac
quote: Originally posted by NotABigDeal
1. By hand. 2. No 3. Yes 4. Yes
Deal
So I have to buy Shotgun Shells too...
Maybe another option: Don't put any paper in the plastic tube. Let the machine just fill the empty tubes. Then you can reroll the coins by hand. You are only using the machine as a counter, but you can then use ANY type of wrapper you want. It is what I used to do before I couldn't return loose. Hope that helps.
Deal |
Live free or die. Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams |
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jadedragon
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 10:32:06
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Thanks Deal - also maybe one could put new tubes in the machine, but dump the tubes into recycled wrappers, and replace the official tubes to fill again.
I get maybe 80% of my coin in shotgun shells. Another 15% comes in the flat paper tubes. The few rolls I've seen in the custom wrap (that must be destroyed to open the roll) are from Coinage Distribution and they are pulling the good nickels to return to the Mint to melt. Therefore I've stopped opening those rolls.
I just hate to have to toss all the good used shotgun shells just to buy new ones.
Thanks to another thread, You must be logged in to see this link. is a source for larger coin processing machines. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 12:30:42
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legacy.. the way Deal discribes it is the way I used to do it before getting my first automatic coin rolling machine. I always just counted into the tube than rolled the coins from that tube in a used wrapper. They want way too much for those preformed shotgun rolls.
Another option is to get a counter.. which you will probably need at some point anyway. Then you set the batch stop to 50 and hit the button. It shoots them out into a bucket in about a second and a half. Then you roll them up in the used shotgun rolls. That is the method I use to do my hand rolling now. Faster than the RS and the hopper is a lot bigger.
If you decide to get a real rolling machine and use the 1000 foot rolls, let me know and I will help you find a better deal on the rolls of paper. That eBay ad is way high on both the cost of the item and the shipping.  |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 05/28/2008 12:31:19 |
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magnasort
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 13:13:10
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My favorite new 'machine' is a handheld garden pruning shear (Fiskars) for opening rolls. I cut the rolls in half over a dollar store bin at 1 roll/2 seconds. Pennies fall out of the cut roll even if not cut in half, just stir the bin when all rolls are cut then sort. I've also built 5 automated sorters based on cheap walmart Magnif coin sorters, they sort cu/zn very well at approx 35 seconds/roll. |
Magnetic sorters, no moving parts except the coins |
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jadedragon
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 13:50:52
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quote: Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
legacy.. the way Deal discribes it is the way I used to do it before getting my first automatic coin rolling machine. I always just counted into the tube than rolled the coins from that tube in a used wrapper. They want way too much for those preformed shotgun rolls.
Another option is to get a counter.. which you will probably need at some point anyway. Then you set the batch stop to 50 and hit the button. It shoots them out into a bucket in about a second and a half. Then you roll them up in the used shotgun rolls. That is the method I use to do my hand rolling now. Faster than the RS and the hopper is a lot bigger.
If you decide to get a real rolling machine and use the 1000 foot rolls, let me know and I will help you find a better deal on the rolls of paper. That eBay ad is way high on both the cost of the item and the shipping. 
The idea of a counter first has real merit. Good for counting 40 nickels or 50 pennies for rolling. Also good for counting bulk for storage/sale in bags. And useful for when I find a place to dump coins in bags. Most counters are dumb - just counting pieces not seperating the coins like a RS - but that is fine because I am dealing with 100% mix of a denomination.
I will keep looking for a good professional roller unit. The roll from ebay was just an example for discussion.
The plastic sleeves from the coin dealer were a bust. They just are too tight (designed to stop coins from shifting and rubbing) and the coins jam in them. Faster to just count a stack of 10 nickels, then build a bunch more stacks the same height. Plus the plastic sleeves are three nickels to tall! I could shorten them by gluing 3 nickels into the bottom, but that still leaves them with the tightness issue.
I should have listened to the coin dealer who said to just buy the plastic clamping coin holders from the dollar store to store coin in. However I was planning to use them to sort/count. Bad idea. Oh well. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 05/28/2008 : 15:27:00
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The single demonination counters work just fine. If you need to sort using them you can generally just start with the biggest size and everything else comes out an offsort hole. My Mach 7 sorts and counts at the rate of 4000 coins per minute, but I probably use one of the Glory CN-12 single denomination counter more often.. 1800 coins per minute is just fine.  |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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