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nckt
Penny Collector Member


USA
304 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2008 :  18:54:54  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
what is one worth?

Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2008 :  19:28:22  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Why, you got one? They are worth what someone is willing to pay for them if there are any. My guess is that one would go for a couple hundred bucks in uncirculated condition.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2008 :  19:47:27  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
My guess is the first one would go for even more.

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nckt
Penny Collector Member



USA
304 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2008 :  20:00:31  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
wow i did find one...
i first did the drop test and it sounded like a copper penny and i was like wow my ears must be going bad and i weighed it and it is copper.
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hector6man
Penny Pincher Member



USA
129 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2008 :  22:10:31  Show Profile Send hector6man a Private Message
Why is everyone going crazy to find 1983 pennies? Did I miss the memo? I had a lot and threw them into the zinc pile. Did I make a mistake?

"Ninety-nine percent of the failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." -George Washington

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Ryedale
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USA
523 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  05:31:38  Show Profile Send Ryedale a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hector6man

Why is everyone going crazy to find 1983 pennies? Did I miss the memo? I had a lot and threw them into the zinc pile. Did I make a mistake?


Specifically a 95% copper 1983, as this would be a "transitional error". They should have all been struck on the new copper plated zinc planchet.

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TenBears
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USA
1021 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  06:05:33  Show Profile Send TenBears a Private Message
A copper 1983 is a rare find indeed. Penny numismatists aren't even looking for copper 83s to my knowledge. Weighing coins for metal content hasn't been a big part of the collecting game. sounds like you have discovered a new variety of error. I don't know who you should report it to and document your finding with a picture of that 1983 on a digital scale. Maybe you report it to the Redbook folks. If you create a decent buzz, you might be able to get a couple of penny collecting fanatics bidding against each other to have the only known copper 83 in existence. If anything, it is pretty cool to have discovered a new penny variety.

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Frugi
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USA
627 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  07:40:02  Show Profile Send Frugi a Private Message
there is several 1983 coppers that have been found.
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topeka
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160 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  07:55:12  Show Profile Send topeka a Private Message
Frugi wrote: "there is several 1983 coppers that have been found"

Where did you get your information?

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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
851 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  20:42:44  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message
I think they are known. I read about them recently on a website about what Lincoln errors to look for, but I can't remember which one. Anyway, I now check all 83s I come across.

Are you throwing that out?
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topeka
Penny Pincher Member



160 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  21:03:12  Show Profile Send topeka a Private Message
Wikianswer?????

Is a copper penny of 1983 a valuable coin?
In: Coins and Currency

Answer
No.

All 1983 cents were minted on zinc planchets coated with a thin layer of copper. The last solid copper cents were minted in mid-1982, and there are no reports of any copper blanks accidentally being mixed with the zinc ones in later years.

Bottom line: as far as anyone knows, there was no repetition of the accident that allowed some copper cents to be minted back in 1943.

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knibloe
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USA
1066 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  22:29:38  Show Profile Send knibloe a Private Message
It happened in 1943 and 44 when they changed compositions and I am sure that I read about it somewhere. I even asked about it in one of my posts about a month ago.

It certainly is possible, even if no one has as yet seen one.
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knibloe
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USA
1066 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  22:39:29  Show Profile Send knibloe a Private Message
If you think that you have the real deal, than you might want to consider sending it into one of the grading services and have them grade and authenticate it.
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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2164 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  03:37:20  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
Have an acquaintance who supposedly knows someone that found one.

if nckt found one, then that is awesome.
He certainly should go about getting it certified. Good place to start? =Local reputable coin dealer!

By the way, was it ever answered what condition it is in?

"May your percentages ever increase!"
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nckt
Penny Collector Member



USA
304 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  10:04:15  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
my scale isn't good, so at school i am going to use one of the really good scientific scales for a better reading, then i might send it to pcgs or ngc, or take it down to the coin shop right next to my school. and it is in i think EF-AU condition.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2008 :  10:22:43  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
If it weighs out right take it to the local shop to have him check it out. Bo is a knowledgable dealer and can probably even handle the submission to PCGS or NGC for you. Or you can wait for the next Santa Clara convention show and take it there. NGC usually has a table there where they will check things out. Dave Lange works for them and is usually at that table. He is a heck of a nice guy and very knowledgable when it comes to pennies.. even wrote a book on them. He would be the guy you want to show it to if you go to that show.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2164 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  11:26:55  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
Thing is... PCGS won't do you any good. Possible NGC won't either.

I know they don't recognize some varieties and errors. You would want to be sure they will mention/make note of it before you send it in, or you'll be putting it in a slab with no notation to it being COPPER.
FYI

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jpf231
Penny Collector Member



USA
340 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  11:32:04  Show Profile Send jpf231 a Private Message
How this happens I've heard, is that one blank copper planchet from late '82 gets caught in the seam of a canvas bag and then the next time the bag is used in early '83 for zinc planchets - that bugger gets stamped 83 but is in fact a planchet from the previous year - rare indeed - must be worth in excess of several hundred bucks - just my guess though.
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nckt
Penny Collector Member



USA
304 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  22:52:19  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
i'm sending it in to pcgs tomorrow morning, i called and told them about the coin and they are doing a special process for it.
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  01:44:22  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
quote:
i'm sending it in to pcgs tomorrow morning, i called and told them about the coin and they are doing a special process for it.

That's exciting. Be sure to let us know how it comes back.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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n/a
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Posted - 05/02/2008 :  17:13:11  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
nice find! the way i have heard it, the mint had some extra copper planchets from the year before and mixed them in with the zinc planchets. the both the zinc and copper planchets got struck. You must be logged in to see this link. is the site.
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TenBears
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1021 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  21:04:18  Show Profile Send TenBears a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nckt

i'm sending it in to pcgs tomorrow morning, i called and told them about the coin and they are doing a special process for it.



Pretty exciting. Did PCGS say how long the process will take? I want to make sure and check back in on this thread after that time to see how it turned out.

"Rich," the Old Man said dreamily, "is not baying after what you can't have. Rich is having the time to do what you want to do. Rich is a little whiskey to drink and some food to eat and a roof over your head and a fish pole and a boat and a gun and a dollar for a box of shells. Rich is not owing any money to anybody, and not spending what you haven't got." Robert Ruark

there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...-----still taunted

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nckt
Penny Collector Member



USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  21:21:31  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
i sent it the slowest way so it is only $18, so around 30 days
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  08:29:35  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
I posted the question about copper planchet errors at

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the reply was that these have been found dated as late as 1990!

A couple of real world examples:

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More freaky errors:

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Edited by - horgad on 05/05/2008 12:25:05
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nckt
Penny Collector Member



USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  09:19:19  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message
wow cool, i cant wait to hear the results of mine.
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simplicitycounts
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
535 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  23:44:56  Show Profile Send simplicitycounts a Private Message
I've bounced around 200 - 1983 pennies off the counter with no ring sound :(. It's strange how some of the zinc coins when worn look like some of the shiny coppers. I keep getting my hopes up, but there is no mistaking the deathing thud of zinc when it hits the desk. It sure doesn't have the pretty ring of copper.
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