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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
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Posted - 08/21/2006 :  18:25:03  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
It seems that Indy will be ground zero for the great copper penny depeletion of 2006/7. Maybe I'll start a Wikipedia entry...
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  07:09:06  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
$25 box break today.

891 Copper
20 Wheaties
19 Canadians
1570 Zinc

35% Copper

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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1035 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2006 :  16:38:22  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
Canadian Nickel. Based on the precentages recently I'd have to say you're correct. This city may not be big enough for the two of us.
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Posted - 08/22/2006 :  22:53:58  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Hi all, just registered on the forum (was briefly active on the message board a few months ago).

I've been hoarding copper cents for over 2 years now (got about $200 worth). I also sort them by date/mintmark, and roll them up {for no apparent reason other than my insanity}.

I just moved to Bangor Maine, from Orlando, FL for graduate school. In orlando, 20% copper was generally the rule. Maybe 1 or 2 wheat cents. I'm anxious to see what it'll be like up here. I'll keep you guys posted :)

Ben
"Growing Older is Killing a Child"
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Ardent Listener
Administrator



USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2006 :  20:41:06  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Four rolls, 200 cents.

52 copper

6-1982

2- Canadian 1968 & 1998

All the rest zincers.

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2006 :  20:40:27  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Wow - I thought the nickel spike would signal the start of real depletion in the Canadian nickel boxes, but I guess not yet. Got 1 $100 box of Canadian Nickels from TD in collingwood today. Fresh, sealed Coinage Distribution Inc. box, 50 rolls all machine wrapped.

Here's the breakdown

521 .999NI Older Elizabeths
21 12-sided younger elizabeths
24 Round young elizabeths
1 "Rabbit" bicentennial nickel
1 12-sided george VI head
and:
1 1931 Geogre V head!
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569 /2000
= 28.45%

Also in this box:

1 1991 greek 20ct
1 1989 british penny
1 2002 greek euro 5ct.
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Posted - 08/26/2006 :  03:04:23  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_Nickle

569 /2000
= 28.45%




this percentage is unreal: on average, over 11 per roll

i do not have a business account, so i get 25 rolls per branch each time,

i got rolls with 5 or less; but some rolls are with 12 or more; it's pretty stable for me on the whole:

796/4000 [2 boxes] =7.96 per roll or 19.9%

i would be happy to get an average of 8 per roll, or 1 in every 5



i got also 10 rolls of pennies: 44% .98 copper

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2006 :  20:40:45  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Blank box from TD collingwood. 1/2 coinage distribution inc machine rolls, 1/2 hand rolls

457 - Older Elizabeth .999NI
16 - round young elizabeth
6 - 12-sided young Elizabeth
3 -"Rabbit"
1 - Round George VI head
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483 /2000=
24.15%
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2006 :  20:43:44  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Personally, I consider anything above 25% a great box, 20-25% a good box, 10-20% a worthwhile box and <10% a bad box.
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Posted - 08/27/2006 :  09:19:26  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Hi eveybody new to the forum and wanted to put in my two cents worth.I average about 1/5 copper out of each roll i search.

The good and the bad...........The bank I get my cents from has 3 branchs all within 15 miles.I use one to dump all of my searched cents and the other two for obtaining rolls.The bank has implemented a new policy. Any rolls over 10 of a single denom I have to pay .10 for each roll over 10 so now im limited ( oh how wrong that is )to 5.00 in cents and 20.00 in nickels ( booooo )some over look the charge and yet some charge it with an evil smirk.I also use a sharpie to mark searched rolls just in case I recieve those rolls back.On days that I run errands I make it a point to stop by each that way I get double the fun.....
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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2006 :  11:50:56  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Welcome pre-82. Sounds like the Banksters in you area are something else. Any chance on you getting another bank? Keep us posted. Other banks may soon start to do the same as yours.

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2006 :  15:59:35  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
I am going on a tour across ontario on monday and hitting up 10 different banks for $100 nickel boxes - I'll see if any of them try to charge me a fee...
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  02:18:21  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Well, I made it. 6 hours, 4 cities, 9 different banks, 20,000 nickels to search through. I'll post results once they're sorted.
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Posted - 08/29/2006 :  02:31:25  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
CN, i want to know if any of the tellers show any unwillingness or sense of strangeness towards your aquisition of large quantities of nickels, thank you if you can post any of your experience
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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  20:28:49  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Yes, I will post details about each bank/box/etc when I have them all sorted and round up my report. For now I will point out that only 2 of the 9 would not give me a whole box, and both claimed it was because they only had enough to supply their regular customers. One gave me 40 rolls, and one TD branch actually said that the "limit" was 10 rolls. Cokplete report to follow, sometime this week.
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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  07:01:50  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_Nickle

Yes, I will post details about each bank/box/etc when I have them all sorted and round up my report. For now I will point out that only 2 of the 9 would not give me a whole box, and both claimed it was because they only had enough to supply their regular customers. One gave me 40 rolls, and one TD branch actually said that the "limit" was 10 rolls. Cokplete report to follow, sometime this week.



Big sorting job.

Monday I went to a supermarket branch of a local bank and asked for $100 dollars in nickels. She said, "Sure." but came back with only $60 dollars worth and told me that was all she had. I really wanted a sealed box, but I don't refuse rolls when that is the best they can do. I try not to call any more attention to myself than I have too. I went to another supermaket branch bank down the street and they had a box for me there. (U.S. Bank, I rate them A+ for coin service) So I bought $60.00 more than I expected last week.


The vast majority of my rolls are in the Brinks boxes, but I put the lose rolls I get from the banks into large 32 oz. plastic Whey protein powder containers. I can pack $150 of rolled nickels into them. I started my fourth one with the $60.



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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2006 :  22:57:51  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Well, here we go:

This is a breakdown of the 9 banks I visited this Monday, the coins I got at each, and the sortred totals. They are listed in the order I went to the banks. As fate would have it, the last one was the best ;)

Breakdown:

Location: Orangeville TD retail branch at the mall.
Teller reaction: "One box is ok, but please wait until the person with the code gets back from lunch."
Recieved: 1 blank box full of hand rolls
Sorted:

427 .999NI Older Elizabeths
9 12-sided young elizabeth
24 Round young elizabeth
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460 /2000
=23%
Also found: 2 dimes


Location: Scotia branch in a mall parkinglot in Orangeville.
Teller reaction: All boxes are reserved for business customers,
but I'll do what I can with loose rolls.
Recieved: 40 rolls
Sorted:
353 .999NI older elizabeth
21 Round Young Elizabeth
3 12-sided Young Elizabeth
__
377 /1600
= 23.56%


Location: TD downtown main branch, Orangeville
Teller reaction: Didn't even blink.
Recieved: 1 TD box full of hand rolls, 1 plastic TD bag with 50 hand rolls.
Sorted:
866 .999NI Older Elizabeth
51 Round Young Elizabeth
18 12-sided Young Elizabeth
2 12-sided George VI
1 rabbit
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938 /4000
=23.45%
Also found: 1 Ireland 1995 10p, 1 Mohawk racetrack 5cent token, 1 Canadian zinc penny.


Location: Fergus ScotiaBank
Teller reaction: "Two boxes is ok, but you'll have to wait 15 minutes while the woman with the code for the coin cage gets back from lunch." - so I went to hit the TD bank while waiting.
Recieved: 2 sealed ScotiaBank boxes full of hand rolls.
Sorted:
1082 .999NI older elizabeth
48 Round Young Elizabeth
23 12-sided ye
1 round George VI
1 12-sided george VI
1 rabbit
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1156 /3860 (*see below)
= 29.95%
Also found: *1 roll canadian pennies (3/4 copper), 1 steel 1953 George head, 5 canadian dimes, Australia 5ct, 1 small piece of sandpaper, 1 cupronickel nickel with about 1/4g. of hash on it.


Location: Fergus TDBank
Teller reaction: One box is all we can do.
Recieved: 1 blank box TD hand rolls.
Sorted:
426 .999NI Older Elizabeth
19 Round Young Elizabeth
6 12-sided Young Elizabeth
1 12-sided George Vi
3 Round George Vi
1 1927 George V head
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456 /2000
=22.8%
Also found: 1 1945 Steel "V for Victory" nickel.


Location: TD bank in some stripmall in northern Guelph
Teller reaction: Confused. Branch Manager stated "there's a limit of 10 rolls per visit."
Recieved: 10 hand rolls.
Sorted:
71 .999NI older elizabeth
4 Round Young Elizabeth
2 12-sided Young Elizabeth
__
77 /400
=19.25%


Location: Scotia Bank downtown Guelph main branch
Teller reaction: One box is ok, but not 2.
Recieved: 50 loose rolls
Sorted:
461 .999NI Older Elizabeth
23 Round Young Elizabeth
6 12-sided Young Elizabeth
1 George VI head
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491 /2000
24.55%
Also: Old greek 5ct, bimetalic mexican peso, 2 canadian steel nickels welded together, 2 canadian dimes



Location: TD Bank downtown main branch Guelph
Teller reaction (cute indain broad): "What do you want these nickels for."
Me (stunningly handsome nickel hoarder) "They're for a wedding gift."
"Oh, that's sweet."
Recieved: 1 TD box of hand-rolled counter rolls.
Sorted:
503 .999NI Older Elizabeth
28 Round Young Elizabeth
8 12-sided young elizabeth
1 Round George VI
1 "rabbit"
1 1951 GH sudbury nickel.
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542/2000
=27.1%


Location: Kitchener Main Branch TD downtown.
Teller reaction: She seemd really upset me to the point of seeing yellowed off - but it was worth it!
Recieved: 50 great loose hand rolls.
Sorted:
505 .999NI Older Elizabeths!
64 12-sided young elizabeths!
61 Round Young Elizabeth
20 Geroge VI!
4 Rabit!
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654 /2000
=32.77%
Also: 25 Steel War Nickels!!! 2 1944 Steel "V for Victory" Nickels! 1 copper penny. 1 dime.

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TOTAL:
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5151 .999 nickels / 19960
=25.8%
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  00:30:50  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Canadian_Nickle



Location: Kitchener Main Branch TD downtown.
Teller reaction: She seemd really upset me to the point of seeing yellowed off - but it was worth it!
Recieved: 50 great loose hand rolls.


Location: TD Bank downtown main branch Guelph
Teller reaction (cute indain broad): "What do you want these nickels for."
Me (stunningly handsome nickel hoarder) "They're for a wedding gift."
"Oh, that's sweet."


5151 .999 nickels / 19960
=25.8%





thank you, CN, your information are both informative and entertaining


did you actually say that some of those nickels are for wedding gift? if that's the case, it would be awesome; i may use that one time

one thing to complain though (out of jealousy): the norm in vancouver royalbanks for me to get is only about 17%, but your area is constantly over 20%, and average 25%, that's like 10 pieces of pure nickel per roll, and you get one with over 30%??? what the....

keep up the good work

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Canadian_Nickle
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
938 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2006 :  01:10:18  Show Profile Send Canadian_Nickle a Private Message
Ontario has been much more heavily populated for some much longer time than out in BC. Lots more old money here. O was thinking it might be cool to get together with some people and stage, like, six people in a row requesting nickel boxes at some of the big banks in Toronto or Ottawa. Sort of like a flashmob/minicon for coin fans. We could bring our traders and show off pieces, and our American friends could ger some canadian penny and nickel boxes while here. 'course the exchange rate ain;t what it used to be.
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Posted - 09/01/2006 :  01:58:23  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I'm back to getting 30+ percent copper out of my pennies. It dipped down to 20% there for a while. Then again I have expanded my area a few miles out. Still hearing about a few other people doing them same thing (with more thinking about it between their silver purchases) as I am, then again I heard it through the "grapevine", and that branch of it is the survivalist branch.

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ImperialFleet
Penny Pincher Member



USA
217 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2006 :  17:33:20  Show Profile Send ImperialFleet a Private Message
Box #1 for this week:
10 Wheats
6 Canadians
17 Zn 1982's
92 Cu 1982's
674 Pre-82 Coppers
1,701 Post-82 Zincs
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26.96% 1959-1981 Copper
30.64% 1959-1982 Copper

Also, Tourney....I would at least continue trying Brinks boxes. I had 4 boxes in a row that were turds, but then they went back to 'normal.' I think it had to do with the mint sending Indy our 2006 zincs for the year in July or something strange like that.

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Metalophile
Penny Collector Member



USA
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2006 :  08:02:12  Show Profile Send Metalophile a Private Message
OK, Here are the results from my first whole box of pennies from Central Arkansas:

400 Pre-82 (16.00%)
49 1982 Bronze (1.96%)
21 1982 Zincolns (0.84%)
3 Wheat (0.12%)
2 Canadian (0.08%)
2027 Zincolns (81.08%)

This was slightly discouraging, but it could have been worse.
One reward was that the three wheaties were better dates:
1916, 1934-d, 1953-S.

Overall I seem to be getting fewer Pre-82 than the average, fewer wheats, and fewer Canadian this far south.

BTW, I am saving my 1982 Bronzes separately from Pre-82, just in case I take them to a scrap yard one day and they balk at 1982's being mixed in there. I separate the 1982's using the "ring test" as a screening method. Then today I took them to the lab to confirm by analytical balance. Using a 2-place balance (balance that reads to hundredths of grams, I take a stack of 5 1982's I believe to be bronze. If they weigh more than ~15.10 grams, then the whole stack is correct (unless one or more of the pennies has obvious foreign matter or corrosion). Likewise, a 5-stack of zincolns weighs just over 12.5 grams. If it weighs over about 13.00 grams, then I weigh one-by-one to check for a bronze. Out of 70 1982's I misidentified only two by the "ring test".


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Posted - 09/05/2006 :  14:31:53  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Here in Southern California I typically average 20% pre-1982 copper cents. I typically sort through the roll, pull out the copper cents and put the zinc cents back into the old roll to return to the bank. I think I'm running up against another hoarder though as I picked up 20 rolls last week and 12 of the rolls did not have any pre-1982 cents.
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ImperialFleet
Penny Pincher Member



USA
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Posted - 09/05/2006 :  15:48:48  Show Profile Send ImperialFleet a Private Message
Box #2 for last week:
12 Wheats
11 Canadians
14 Zn 1982's
89 Cu 1982's
763 Pre-82 Coppers
1,611 Post-82 Zincs
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30.52% 1959-1981 Copper
34.08% 1959-1982 Copper

My new record for Copper cents

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Posted - 09/06/2006 :  21:21:23  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Hi, I have a quick question . How much more is the copper penny worth than the actual value? Also, how do you cash it in to take advantage of the difference?
Thanks
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