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Posted - 04/07/2008 :  20:41:46  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Saul - Try the IH experiment (Ryedale Experiments Post)

Those 1935's will fall with the rest of the copper every time, as will the IH's and other old wheaties.

P.S. I ran $50 through today on the IH standard and only got 4 zincs in with the copper.

"They that can give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2008 :  21:24:38  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
I ran $250 over the weekend with a 1980 as standard and 10 zincs ended up with the coppers.

Using HCBTT's technique, I snagged 7 (count 'em) old wheats from the zinc pile.

The Ryedale is close to perfect, but the pennies aren't perfect.

Trust the government? Ask an Indian.
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Posted - 04/07/2008 :  22:14:10  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
I used HCBTT's technique and some how still missed some old wheats. Guess I was going a little too fast. Then I dialed the IH standard and re-ran a bunch of zinc. I pulled a 1919 and a 1937 plus a dozen or so missed coppers out of what I was sure was pure zinc.

Been averaging about 20% copper here in CO.

"They that can give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2008 :  22:22:56  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
The key to manually sifting though the zinc is to not do too many at a time. About 400-500 at a time works best.. as long as you have a decent size pan to look at them in as you sift them so they are shallow as you sift through them. I use the same method for refining when I pull out all the culls (uglies) and wheats.

With a copper standard on the first sort you will sometimes occasionally get a zinc. This is usually caused by what I call hop-over or bleed-over. This is where the coin either hops over the comparitor and lands directly in the copper box or bleeds over from the zinc box when the zinc box gets too full. For this reason I do a second copper verification sort on the copper just to assure purity.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.

Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 04/07/2008 22:25:39
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1805 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2008 :  23:38:59  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
Sorted two boxes of pennies today...

5000 searched
1612 1959-82 Cu
17 wheat cents
24 Canadian cents

Nothing too exciting in this batch.

My hobby: collecting real money 1 copper cent or nickel at a time.

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Saul Mine
Penny Collector Member



USA
343 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  00:11:36  Show Profile Send Saul Mine a Private Message
Yeah, that hop-over is a real nuisance. If I use deeper buckets the coins fall farther and bounce higher. I've tried several things, but right now a simple cardboard chute seems to reduce the problem to a minimum.

A penny sorted is a penny earned!

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PennyProspector
Penny Pincher Member



USA
212 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  00:29:00  Show Profile Send PennyProspector a Private Message
A new record!

FOR THE WORST PERCENTAGE OUT OF A CUSTOMER RETURN LOOSE BAG!

bag of $50
only got 1.70 copper! (3.4%)

Ouch!

I will still include it into my nightly average on the next post

Happy Prospecting!
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PennyProspector
Penny Pincher Member



USA
212 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  00:33:21  Show Profile Send PennyProspector a Private Message
tonight sort

35,000 sorted 7 bags total
9,572 total copper (27.34% would have been 31.3% with out the dud bag... BUT, I got it so I will count it, Still a good night over all)

57 wheat
1 plastic penny
1 bermuda penny

Happy Prospecting!
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  01:45:45  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by PennyProspector

A new record!

FOR THE WORST PERCENTAGE OUT OF A CUSTOMER RETURN LOOSE BAG!

bag of $50
only got 1.70 copper! (3.4%)

Ouch!



Well, guess I can't hold all the records..

Zinc happens!

Maybe if I could get some loose bags I might hold this record too.

Still pales in comparison to only getting about 9 coppers out of an entire 24 box shipment.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.

Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 04/08/2008 01:47:08
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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  02:04:55  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

Zinc happens!


This would be a great bumper sticker, Hoard. You really oughta print some up and sell them on here. I'd buy one. How many copper pennies would you sell them for?


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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  02:12:14  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I will be giving them out free at the get together.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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PennyProspector
Penny Pincher Member



USA
212 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  07:38:00  Show Profile Send PennyProspector a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

quote:
Originally posted by PennyProspector

A new record!

FOR THE WORST PERCENTAGE OUT OF A CUSTOMER RETURN LOOSE BAG!

bag of $50
only got 1.70 copper! (3.4%)

Ouch!




Well, guess I can't hold all the records..

Zinc happens!

Maybe if I could get some loose bags I might hold this record too.

Still pales in comparison to only getting about 9 coppers out of an entire 24 box shipment.




LOL

I thought of you the entire time I was watching the shiny zink pour into the bucket.

and I thought "If my percentages are down I guess I will just have to sort more"

you are right 24 boxes would suck!

pp

Happy Prospecting!
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
672 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  17:43:58  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
latest $100 sort

2909 copper
7039 zinc
32 wheats
19 canadians
1 Indian ( 1905 )

2909/10000 = 29.09%

my fifth indian - it had been around 70000 sorted since my last one.

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
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WheatieFan
Penny Pincher Member



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  20:13:32  Show Profile Send WheatieFan a Private Message
I'm new here. This is my first post. I sorted rolls years ago, but this is my first in a long time...

5000 cents:
0001 Indian Head - well worn - date almost unreadable
0013 Wheat - all post-1940
0735 Copper 59-81
0133 1982 - unsorted
4118 Zinc

14.7% not counting unsorted 1982s...

Thanks all,
WheatieFan

Edited by - WheatieFan on 04/09/2008 19:48:28
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member



USA
382 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  21:31:22  Show Profile Send Epaphras a Private Message
Welcome WheatieFan. What area of the country is giving you 14.7%?

Purchased $50 in cents but did not sort. Helped a co-worker in moving back to CA and got $100. I'll put that toward the copper fund.
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eharrison
Penny Pincher Member



USA
234 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  23:24:45  Show Profile Send eharrison a Private Message
Over the past two weeks:
8797-Cents
1547-Copper-17.58%
0020-Wheat
0009-Canadian CU

Also found:
An early 20th century cent from the Republic of Panama
4 dimes in ONE roll that was 3 cents short
More hair in a few rolls........this is becoming a trend
(17.82% not including wheat or CAN.)

Got $24 CWR and $25 box of cents from area banks-all the while on my bike. (Bike=cheaper than gas)
Didn't realize how heavy it would get by the time I stopped at the fifth bank.....it was a workout.
Will work through that over the next week or so.

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Posted - 04/09/2008 :  02:08:50  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Found my first Indian! No one else is on so I will get exited all by myself!!
Sorted 2 $50 bags so far tonight (1902 IH reference) and at the end of the second one there it was. A 1907, a little discolored but not too worn! also found a 1910 and almost every pre 40 in between. 164 wheats in 10K. Not bad! 1 more $50 to go from the same batch before bed. Maybe another Indian?

P.S. All pre 40's including the IH fell with the copper (right side) in the 1902 IH reference sort.

"They that can give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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Posted - 04/09/2008 :  03:25:54  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Another One!!!! Sorted the 3rd bag and got another 1907 IH! 2 in 1 night.

Tonight's totals:

15000 sorted
252 wheats
2 1907 IH
24% copper

I didn't count the pre 40's but I think they were about 25% total wheats

Great Night!

"They that can give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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PennehChaos.
Penny Collector Member



USA
269 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  14:04:52  Show Profile Send PennehChaos. a Private Message
Sorted my first roll today... 41 zinc, 8 coppers and a dime

"See, honey, my new hobby is profitable already!"

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WheatieFan
Penny Pincher Member



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  18:46:58  Show Profile Send WheatieFan a Private Message
Another bag. North Georgia. These are from a small bank that rerolls what customers turn in. Possible dump for other sorters. Might try a different bank.

5000 cents
0009 foreign - 6 canada, 1 bahama, 1 2euro, 1 mexico
0018 wheat
0850 59-81 copper
0162 82 unsorted
3961 zinc

17.0% Copper, not counting wheats or 1982...

WheatieFan
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  19:06:32  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
WheatieFan.. welcome to the forum. I think you have actually found a good source bank. Most of us count our wheats as part of our copper %. What would you say your percentage is if they gave you an entire bag of wheat cents? What is killing your percentages is those 1982 cents. You need to get a little scale and sort those out.. it will improve your your percentages significantly. Most guys that have sorted large numbers of 82's report that they are 80-85% copper. If we add back in the wheats and the copper 82's your percentages come in around 20%, which is not bad for your area. It looks to me like there are no other hoarders dumping at your source bank.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.

Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 04/09/2008 19:07:22
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member



USA
382 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  20:16:13  Show Profile Send Epaphras a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by WheatieFan

Another bag. North Georgia. These are from a small bank that rerolls what customers turn in. Possible dump for other sorters. Might try a different bank.


Ah, it is good to see another Georgia sorter on the board. As of right now, I am averaging mid to high 18%.

Purchased $200 and sorted $250 today.
4300 copper=17.20%
1 Panama cent
Down .95% from last sort
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1035 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  21:46:21  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
Sorted 2 - $25 Brinks Boxes-Sealed
Dated 3/4/08
Box Weight - ??
1391 Copper-Including Wheats 27.8 %

9 Canadian CU
6 Canadian Other
17 Wheats Oldest - 1924
0 Indian Head
2 Dimes
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1035 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  21:51:18  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
Sorted 3 - $25 CWI #61 Boxes-Sealed
One Box Dated 3/4/08 Inspected by XXX1
Two Boxes Dated 2/20/08 Inpected by 5053
These are paper rolled with holes in the top of the box
Box Weight - ??
These boxes were mixed in with my Brink Box delivery.
I ordered 10 boxes and they delivered 3 CWI boxes and 7 Brinks boxes

2026 Copper-Including Wheats 27 %

4 Canadian CU
2 Canadian Other
12 Wheats Oldest - 1939
0 Indian Head
0 Dimes
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topeka
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160 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  22:53:56  Show Profile Send topeka a Private Message
10,000 sorted

24.31% copper

Silver..poor mans gold
Copper..peasant silver
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