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Copper Catcher
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beauanderos
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Posted - 08/22/2010 :  14:51:44  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
I'm surprized the oil companies haven't suppressed this yet

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TXBullion
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Posted - 08/22/2010 :  16:18:33  Show Profile Send TXBullion a Private Message
I noticed that this is a year old. I wonder if there is a newer more efficient, lower cost model? I believe this could potentially pay off as a good investment....

Anyone know anything, a quick google search revealed,,,,,,,, nothing
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Ardent Listener
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Posted - 08/22/2010 :  16:22:48  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Not to get too far off topic, but couldn't some of that oil in the gulf be used to tar the roads? A lot of it is already tar balls.

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jonflyfish
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Posted - 08/22/2010 :  22:28:08  Show Profile  Send jonflyfish a Yahoo! Message Send jonflyfish a Private Message
Turning plastic into oil is like turning tires into rubber. Plastic is made from oil so it is recycled. IMO for the energy and cost vs yield, it is better to just use plastic to recycle back into other plastic. Always good to recycle.

AL- Yes some oil from the gulf or anywhere can and is turned into asphalt. It's in the bottom of the crude oil distillation crack.

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beauanderos
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  14:48:10  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
What the video didn't mention was the energy efficiency of the process. Does it cost more to generate heat to convert the plastics than the BTU's produced by the conversion? It would definitely cut down on landfills if it worked.

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jonflyfish
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  15:03:45  Show Profile  Send jonflyfish a Yahoo! Message Send jonflyfish a Private Message
Can't be much different than claiming to make trees out of wood chips.
Clearly not the best use.

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novillero
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  19:34:54  Show Profile Send novillero a Private Message
There is a lot of plastic that is not recycled because it is not number 1 or 2. (I didn't see the video because I am reading this on my blackberry)

I wonder if it works with those "other" plastics.
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novillero
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Posted - 08/23/2010 :  19:40:10  Show Profile Send novillero a Private Message
Ahhhh, I see it does plastics 2-4

Edited by - novillero on 08/23/2010 19:41:26
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Cerulean
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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  13:36:04  Show Profile Send Cerulean a Private Message
This technology, thermal depolymerization, turns any organic compound into petroleum. Garbage in, oil out. A test facility in Missouri has been doing this since 2003.

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Thermal Depolymerization (TDP) is a process using hydrous pyrolysis for the reduction of complex organic materials (usually waste products of various sorts, often known as biomass and plastic) into light crude oil. It mimics the natural geological processes thought to be involved in the production of fossil fuels. Under pressure and heat, long chain polymers of hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon decompose into short-chain petroleum hydrocarbons with a maximum length of around 18 carbons.

The process can break down organic poisons, due to breaking chemical bonds and destroying the molecular shape needed for the poison's activity. It is likely to be highly effective at killing pathogens, including prions. It can also safely remove heavy metals from the samples by converting them from their ionized or organometallic forms to their stable oxides which can be safely separated from the other products.

Along with similar processes, it is a method of recycling the energy content of organic materials without first removing the water. It can produce liquid fuel, which separates from the water physically without need for drying. Other methods to recover energy often require pre-drying (e.g. burning, pyrolysis) or produce gaseous products (e.g. anaerobic digestion).

The United States Environmental Protection Agency estimates that in 2006 there were 251 million tons of municipal solid waste, or 4.6 pounds generated per day per person in the USA.[12] Much of this mass is considered unsuitable for oil conversion.

Many agricultural and animal wastes could be processed, but many of these are already used as fertilizer, animal feed, and, in some cases, as feedstocks for paper mills or as boiler fuel. Energy crops constitute another potentially large feedstock for thermal depolymerization.


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