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Sheikh_yer_BuTay
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USA
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Posted - 08/07/2010 :  11:30:16  Show Profile Send Sheikh_yer_BuTay a Private Message
I just pulled out some coins I collected in the 60's. I have not touched them for about 30 years now. Back then, coin shops sold manila paper coin holders. I have many, many coins stored this way.

To my horror, everywhere the coins touched paper is now tarnished black! AAAAAAAAGGHH!!!!

NOW what do I do?? I know I can clean them using hot water, soda, and aluminum foil, but I fear that will clean them too much. The patina will be destroyed and the coins will lose their numismatic value.

HELP!

stateofmind
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Posted - 08/07/2010 :  12:44:09  Show Profile Send stateofmind a Private Message
What kind of coins were tarnished? Are they valuable numismatically or bullion wise?

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AGCoinHunter
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USA
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Posted - 08/07/2010 :  13:28:17  Show Profile Send AGCoinHunter a Private Message
Its the sulpher in the paper I believe that tarnishes the coins. Copper stuff I dont think much can be done for. Silver I think can be dipped in acetone and distilled water after and it might get some of the organic gunk off. Other than that, if its the metal, think its permanantly tarnished. If its bullion grade, you can use something like CLR to try to get it off I believe.



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wolvesdad
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Posted - 08/07/2010 :  16:50:03  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
yeah, more details on the coins, compositions and value category (rare, silver, high grade, etc)

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Sheikh_yer_BuTay
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USA
232 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2010 :  09:37:41  Show Profile Send Sheikh_yer_BuTay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AGCoinHunter

Its the sulpher in the paper I believe that tarnishes the coins. Copper stuff I dont think much can be done for. Silver I think can be dipped in acetone and distilled water after and it might get some of the organic gunk off. Other than that, if its the metal, think its permanantly tarnished. If its bullion grade, you can use something like CLR to try to get it off I believe.



Thanks AGCoinHunter.

Yeah, I want to remove the black tarnish off the 90%, but still keep the patina to retain the numismatic value.

I guess I will just have to brush up on my old high school chemistry and experiment to see what will work.
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daviscfad
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Posted - 08/08/2010 :  10:59:25  Show Profile Send daviscfad a Private Message
only use acetone. anything else will devalue the coin

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Sheikh_yer_BuTay
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USA
232 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2010 :  12:09:52  Show Profile Send Sheikh_yer_BuTay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by daviscfad

only use acetone. anything else will devalue the coin



It is amazing the great coins you can buy really cheap after they have been cleaned. I have bought EF-40/AU-50 silver dollars at melt value simply because someone didn't know "cleaning" the coins destroyed their value.

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beauanderos
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Posted - 08/08/2010 :  12:54:40  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
I think I would still prefer a bright shiny silver half dollar than one that is heavily toned, even by natural processes that cause a variety of colorful effects. If I get ASE's off ebay that have rim toning, I clean them. It's just bullion, and that's the way I like em

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rakattack
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Posted - 08/09/2010 :  00:01:47  Show Profile Send rakattack a Private Message
You can dip it...
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uthminsta
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USA
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Posted - 08/09/2010 :  00:24:03  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Anyone tried the stuff called MS-70? My local shop cleaned a couple of VERY dark British shillings for me. Didn't remove everything, but made the coin a little more presentable. I've also done this in reverse: some shillings that were harshly cleaned, I put in little manila folders for a while and they retoned a little. Didn't look quite so "bone-white" after a few months.

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Sheikh_yer_BuTay
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USA
232 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2010 :  03:05:01  Show Profile Send Sheikh_yer_BuTay a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by uthminsta

Anyone tried the stuff called MS-70? My local shop cleaned a couple of VERY dark British shillings for me. Didn't remove everything, but made the coin a little more presentable. I've also done this in reverse: some shillings that were harshly cleaned, I put in little manila folders for a while and they retoned a little. Didn't look quite so "bone-white" after a few months.



I will try some of that if I can find it. Already bought some acetone, am going to try that, too.

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