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Investin Cents
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2010 :  22:14:34  Show Profile Send Investin Cents a Private Message
OK, it is not a "bullion" metal and not exactly what one normally looks for to scrap or use much on their own. But I recently came across several pounds of the heavy, greyish, soft metal in a person's home. (They were using it for fishing-line weights and casting their own sizes.)

Should I shun this stuff like plutonium?

Or keep some for future uses, such as ????

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Nickelless
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Posted - 06/05/2010 :  22:43:11  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Don't lick it.

Seriously, you may need a permit to handle or dispose of it, not to mention a superb ventilation system. Are you positive that it's lead?


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Posted - 06/05/2010 :  23:12:25  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
Seriously, you may need a permit to handle or dispose of it, not to mention a superb ventilation system. Are you positive that it's lead?


Huh?!? I have a stack of the stuff (999 fine ingots) and I think most scrap yards will buy it as well (that's why they buy car batteries). Lead is still used in many products. It's used in many alloys to make metal more machinable. It's used in batteries. It's used in solder (not for water pipes). Obviously it's used in ammunition.

I'm no lawyer, but I don't think buying/selling lead is a big deal if it is clearly identified as lead. Throwing it in the dump might be frowned upon, and certainly things like outdoor lead paint removal (where you could be exposing other people to airborne particles) are regulated, but having a chunk in your basement shouldn't be an issue. Just don't lick it or melt it and breathe the fumes Wash your hands after handling if it's a concern.

I think lead only becomes a legal issue if it's in a product and you don't disclose it, or if it's in a specifically regulated product (in paint on made-in-China children's toys, for instance, or in gasoline).

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Nickelless
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  09:37:24  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
My bad, Nate, I've never had occasion to work with lead, I guess in my mind I was lumping it in with mercury and other elements that cause neurological damage.

I take that back, I guess I work with lead every weekend, it's just at 1280 feet per second at the range.


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hobo finds
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  14:17:18  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
I got .15 a pound for auto batts. I am sure you will get much more without the plastic and acid in pure form
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aloneibreak
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  14:40:22  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
lead prices are down a bit right now - like a bunch of other base metals.

ive got a bucket almost full of old wheel weights, sinkers and various other chunks

i'd save it if i were you. either wait till prices go up a bit and sell as scrap or get someone to mold some bullets for you



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hobo finds
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  18:24:11  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by aloneibreak

lead prices are down a bit right now - like a bunch of other base metals.

ive got a bucket almost full of old wheel weights, sinkers and various other chunks

i'd save it if i were you. either wait till prices go up a bit and sell as scrap or get someone to mold some bullets for you

On the wheel weights do you need to remove the steel or do they pay the same with it on?


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Nickelless
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  19:34:40  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
How about a Pb and jelly sandwich?


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Investin Cents
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  19:49:23  Show Profile Send Investin Cents a Private Message
Oh, it's real Lead alright. He probably collected scrap from construction sites he worked at. He melted & molded it himself into fishing weights for lines & nets. It is extremely dense (heavy) and soft enough so that I can scratch it with my fingernail.

I see from Kitco it goes for less per pound than Zinc or Aluminum. I may have 20 or more pounds. I'll keep it in case TSHTF. Yes, I have been careful to clean-up after handling.

Lead bullets? I thought they made them from steel nowadays? (For example, they call the mini-gun on military aircraft "steel rain", yes?)

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aloneibreak
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  19:51:34  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hobo finds



On the wheel weights do you need to remove the steel or do they pay the same with it on?






ive been working on filling this bucket for a few years so i havent taken any in to find out !

i think according to this you can leave the metal clips on...

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messymessy
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Posted - 06/06/2010 :  20:20:56  Show Profile Send messymessy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

How about a Pb and jelly sandwich?



I thought that was really funny.
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misteroman
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:10:40  Show Profile Send misteroman a Private Message
what is lead a lb these days? I have a few ppl at tires shops that would save the old weights

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hobo finds
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:18:54  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
.09 a pound for auto batteries. But i still want to know if you turn in wheel weights do you need to remove the steel?
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  06:25:53  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Investin Cents

Oh, it's real Lead alright. He probably collected scrap from construction sites he worked at. He melted & molded it himself into fishing weights for lines & nets. It is extremely dense (heavy) and soft enough so that I can scratch it with my fingernail.

I see from Kitco it goes for less per pound than Zinc or Aluminum. I may have 20 or more pounds. I'll keep it in case TSHTF. Yes, I have been careful to clean-up after handling.

Lead bullets? I thought they made them from steel nowadays? (For example, they call the mini-gun on military aircraft "steel rain", yes?)

Thanks all!



No sir. Most, but not all, ammo is at least lead core. Most recreational rounds are copper jacketed lead bullets. There are rounds with steel cores, but those have restricted ownership in some states. Luckly not mine, hehe.

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