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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  03:09:09  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Time to start a new one. Please post your sorting percentages and buying reports here. Happy Hoarding everyone!

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson

fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  03:52:59  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Look's like I'll be the first.
$25 handwrapped

23.8% copper
17 wheats, all from the '50's
22 Canadian, 2 AU from 1956
1 euro cent from The Netherlands---I think the Dutch discontinued the 1 cent Euro(?)
1 darn dime

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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Hirbonzig
Penny Collector Member



USA
451 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  11:38:46  Show Profile Send Hirbonzig a Private Message
Dose anybody have a different way of opening paper wraped rolls? I still use a wallboard knife and remove the two crimped ends and then unroll the paper. This way is ok, but I'm looking for a different(better?) way. I'm starting to get finger lock after long sessions of sorting. Would be nice to have a machine for this purpose, but funds are low in the winter.
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  13:59:06  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
I open all my rolls by "hand" and faster than a Ryedale can sort them. I actually have to slow down so it can catch up.

Plastic wrapped rolls require no tools and open the fastest. Just make a small tear at one end and squeeze.

For any paper rolls with a machine crimp at one or both ends (so including some hand wrapped rolls), I use a utility knife with a hooked carpet blade. All you have to do is slip the hook of the blade under the crimp and make a small tear through it. After that, they easily rip open by hand starting at the small tear.

Hand wrapped paper rolls with no machine crimps are the slowest for me. I unfold one-end just far enough to get a grip on a single ply of the paper and then they are toast....rip!

I did experiment with a "free" faster way to unroll pennies, but since I am already unrolling at the speed of sorting there is not much point to to unroll faster and get way ahead. But incase anybody is interested: I took an old computer case and cut it up with tin snips. I made cuts in the sheet of metal so that it would sit in the middle, hanging by the rim, of a 5 gallon bucket. The sheet metal from the case was sturding enough to take a beating and sharp enough to open rolls, but dull enough to avoid injury.

The technique was simple. Grasp the roll at one end and whack the other end against the dull blade hanging over the bucket. Depending on the force applied the results could be a neat pile of pennies in the bottom of a bucket or a spray of pennies flying everywhere.

Edited by - horgad on 12/12/2007 14:00:56
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  15:34:14  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Extracting the pennies is one of the most time consuming parts of the operation. The best machine for it is called the RollCracker1000. It will open 100 rolls per minute and has vacuums set up to suck up all the paper and plastic wrappers. I don't think Santa is going to be bringing me one of these for Xmas.. I haven't been good enough, and I am told at home that I already have too many machines. This morning she asked why I needed 2 automatic rolling machines.. "So I can roll twice as fast" I answered. Anyway, most of us (even me) don't do enough volume to justify the the purchase of a $15,000 machine that weighs three quarters of a ton, no matter how cool it would be to have one.

The way I open paper rolls is similar to horgad's method, but there is no sheet metal involved. For my bucket I use a kitty litter bucket and whack the coins on the inside corner to break them open. This works pretty well. I even open the hand rolled ones this way because it is faster. Also, you can just set your bucket up in front of the couch and liberate a bunch of pennies while watching TV. Don't fill the bucket all the way up.. 18,000 pennies is more than you probably want to try to lift at one time when you get ready to take them to feed that Ryedale monster.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.

Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 12/12/2007 15:35:14
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member



USA
382 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  18:07:20  Show Profile Send Epaphras a Private Message
I, like HCBTT, whack to rolls together to loosen them so I can twist them off. The hand-wrapped rolls I save for reroll zincs. The only rolls I discard are the ones from sealed boxes (both plastic and paper). The plastic ones could be reused, but it is too much work to melt the edges to avoid coin lost.
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2007 :  21:03:25  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
Report for last 7 days (based on on a guess of 27%):

29 boxes sorted
~19,575 coppers kept including
268 wheats including
1 1943
1 1919
3 1918s
2 1917s
2 1914s

No exact counts anymore on the coppers and zincs as I ratchet things up but I am tracking number of boxes, box weights, and wheats.
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Hirbonzig
Penny Collector Member



USA
451 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  07:46:36  Show Profile Send Hirbonzig a Private Message
I have been trying HCBTT's method and I'd say it's more fun to smash the rolls than getting hand cramps. My first few rolls ended up splattering around the room,but after a while I did get the "feel" of the job and got the rolls to break open cleanly into the bucket.
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Hirbonzig
Penny Collector Member



USA
451 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  07:50:13  Show Profile Send Hirbonzig a Private Message
1 box:

711 copper 28.44%

8 wheats

12 canadian (one King)
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  10:59:14  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Hirbonzig

I have been trying HCBTT's method and I'd say it's more fun to smash the rolls than getting hand cramps. My first few rolls ended up splattering around the room,but after a while I did get the "feel" of the job and got the rolls to break open cleanly into the bucket.


Glad I could help. This forum is all about sharing ideas and experiences. I originally got the idea of using kitty litter buckets for storage from a post by another member here. Then one day I realized those buckets were sturdy enough to smash the rolls on.. thus saving the edge of my desk and keeping pennies from flying everywhere. Smashing them open is kind of fun, plus it is a good stress reliever.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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Ryedale
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USA
523 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  10:59:48  Show Profile Send Ryedale a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by horgad

I open all my rolls by "hand" and faster than a Ryedale can sort them. I actually have to slow down so it can catch up.




Hey how do you know how fast a Ryedale Sorts?

Ryedale

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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  12:55:01  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
Well I am pretty sure that I can open rolls faster than you or any of your Ryedale kin can sort them. However, opening rolls faster than a Coin Artist sorts is a different story.

Edited by - horgad on 12/13/2007 12:56:03
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  19:44:57  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Haven't gotten shorted on any of my orders out here in CA yet. So if there is a penny shortage, just like free self service coin counters at the banks, it hasn't spread to my area yet. Interesting thing about today's pickup. Picked up 12 boxes ($300) at this one bank that I occasionally get some at and being curious as always I popped a few boxes open in the trunk of the car.. You guessed it.. mostly shiny ones! But as I looked closer I noticed they were not 2007 solid boxes but 2006! I haven't gotten any of those since about February. Does this mean I am finally getting to the back of this bank's central vault or are we finally starting to run them out of pennies? Will have to see what turns up in tomorrow's weekly order when I pick it up.

A Box of pennies is like a box of chocolates.. you never know what you'll get inside.

If we do have a penny shortage I think I am ready. When they start paying a premium for zinc rolls I think I may be able to scare up a few.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1035 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  20:36:42  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
Sorted $7.29 Customer Coins.

A guy bypassed the bank and gave me the coins directly in a jar. He said I could pay him later for the total pennies. I picked up 3 Brinks boxes today for the weekend sorting.

221 Copper 30.3 %

Not Included in copper #'s
0 Canadian CU
1 Canadian Other
3 Wheats 1937
0 Dimes

Edited by - Tourney64 on 12/13/2007 20:38:20
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
672 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2007 :  21:19:25  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
todays $50 sort

1276 copper
3524 zinc
184 82's
12 wheats
4 canadians

1276/5000 = 25.52%

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  06:55:47  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
"Haven't gotten shorted on any of my orders out here in CA yet."

I got shorted yesterday at two banks. One had sold part of my penny order to the mall because of the Christmas rush and the other one had been robbed. No the robbers didn't steal the pennies , but the theft and subsequent investigation is delaying their Brinks delivery.

Edited by - horgad on 12/14/2007 06:56:43
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  11:18:36  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by horgad


I got shorted yesterday at two banks. One had sold part of my penny order to the mall because of the Christmas rush and the other one had been robbed. No the robbers didn't steal the pennies , but the theft and subsequent investigation is delaying their Brinks delivery.


You will have to make an extra pickup when that Brinks delivery finally comes in. I don't feel too sorry for you though.. I think you have enough pennies stacked up to get you through Christmas.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
672 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  18:13:47  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
todays $50 sort from wells fargo

1264 copper
3548 zinc
156 82's
24 wheats
8 canadians

1264/5000 = 25.28%

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2007 :  20:34:30  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Well I got skunked on my weekly pickup today. No penny shortage.. they just told me they forgot to order my pennies, the guy that orders the coins is on vacation, etc. You would think a weekly order would be hard to forget. Gosh, I don't know if I will have enough pennies to get me through Christmas now.

On a good note I was able to buy a bunch of US silver coins, some Red Seal $2's, and some old Mexico coins and paper money from one of the tellers at one of my other banks. Some of the Mexican coins are from the 20's so they might actually have some silver in them.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  14:02:59  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
$50 BWR

706 Copper
16 Wheaties
15 Canadian

28.24% Cu
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Robarons
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
522 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  15:43:50  Show Profile Send Robarons a Private Message
12/12 $27 BWR & CWR
714 coppers
2 wheats
1 Candian king
Can.-79 19
Can. 80-96 23
Can 97-07 14
26%

12/14 $25 CWR
637 coppers
6 wheats
1 Candian Bird penny
3 Can kings
21 Can-79
27 Can 80-96
12 Can 97-07
25%

Robber Baron= Robarons
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
3890 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  15:50:11  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
Welcome jrbeasley. Not bad totals. Where are you located?

No sorting done, just buying. $100 bought. All Brinks boxes.

Deal

Live free or die.
Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  17:56:59  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
quote:
No sorting done, just buying.

That's what I do often...stock up for later. I have boxes aplenty I haven't sorted yet. Can't wait!

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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PennyProspector
Penny Pincher Member



USA
212 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  19:07:05  Show Profile Send PennyProspector a Private Message
I am new to the forum and am wondering what make you choose boxes of rolled coin?

In my area most banks count any loose coin brought in, into $50 bags to sell to brinks.

I have been purchasing those bags prior to brinks thus no coin rolls to open.


Happy Prospecting!
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  22:02:59  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
PennyProspector.. welcome to the forum. Most of us will take pennies in whatever form we can get them. If I could choose I would take them in bags like you.. eliminating the coin extraction step would cut down on my processing time. Unfortuntely the banks in my area don't process their own coins.. they have it done by a coin service so the only way I can get coins from them is either in a box or sometimes individual rolls. What area are you from and what has your copper percentage been running?

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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PennyProspector
Penny Pincher Member



USA
212 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2007 :  23:16:35  Show Profile Send PennyProspector a Private Message
From Northern Indiana, copper percentage usually is around 30% + or -, however this week my percentage are super high! (I suspect since I am buying bags brought into the bank by customers I am the receipient of people cashing in the old coin jugs in the closet for Chrismas money)



Happy Prospecting!
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