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beauanderos
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Posted - 05/07/2010 :  11:14:59  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
You must be logged in to see this link.|hp-desktop|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2FYou must be logged in to see this link. this is a fairly easy to understand explanation, which sounds plausible

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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 05/08/2010 :  06:05:57  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
$1 Trillion Wiped Out Before Rebound

In a matter of seconds, $1 trillion in equity -- a figure equivalent to 7% of U.S. gross domestic product -- was wiped out by Thursday trading before the market rebounded.

Citigroup was investigating reports that one of its traders erroneously placed a trade in a derivative tied to the S&P 500 in an amount 1000 times larger than he had intended, which could have dramatically exacerbated the nose dive. Once the freefall began, an avalanche of automatic computer-driven sell orders was unleashed across electronic markets, accelerating the rout.

In some cases, the trading activity was completely absurd. Accenture (ACN), a $40 stock, briefly traded at a penny per share. Boston Beer Company (SAM), the maker of Sam Adams beer, also briefly lost all of its value -- meaning that it was worth nothing -- after starting the day above $60 per share. Tobacco giant Philip Morris International (PM), which had opened at around $48 per share, briefly bottomed out at $2 per share. Other securities, including Exelon (EXC), Radian Group (RDN) and Centerpoint Energy (CNP) also saw their stock values vanish in a matter of seconds.

The Wall Street Journal reports that "the $9.5 billion iShares Russell 1000 Value Index Fund went from $59 to around 8 cents in the blink of an eye." WSJ.com's Matt Phillips put together a list of stocks that lost their entire value before rebounding. Aside from the aforementioned Exelon Corp., Boston Beer and CenterPoint, the list includes Eagle Materials (EXP), Brown & Brown (BRO) and Iowa Telecommunications (IWA). All six of those stocks can be found on the Nasdaq list of cancelled trades.

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this explanation makes no sense. most or all of those companies are not in the S&P 500. Something funny was going on.

if it was a general market crash, it would not have begun with these obscure companies but rather the most widely followed companies.

Buying:
Peace/Morgan G+ at $15.00
copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X


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No82s
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2010 :  09:57:22  Show Profile Send No82s a Private Message
You bet something was going on - otherwise they wouldn't be cancelling trades, which is BS in my mind. If you're going to make tons of money computer trading you ought to be able to lose tons of it too!

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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2010 :  14:03:26  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
someone wanted the market down, either to pick up bargains or trying to cause a crash. someone else wanted the market back up.

Buying:
Peace/Morgan G+ at $15.00
copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X


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